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    More on Lagrange point orbits

    Ok, I think I've now completed the mapping of the centre manifold orbits of the L1 and L2 points of the Earth-Moon system. For the mathematics aficionados in the Orbiter Land, this 'mapping' consists of calculating the coefficients of a Lindstedt-Poincaré expansion of the centre-manifold to...
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    More on Lagrange point orbits

    Over the last couple of months I've been busy working out the parametric representing the closed 'centre manifold' orbits of the L1 and L2 Lagrange points of the Earth-Moon and Sun-Earth systems. And I've just about finished. Essentially, this is a mapping exercise. Just as Keplerian orbits...
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    Challenge Low energy Moon-Earth transfer

    Very nice. As with BrianJ, it looks as if I'm going to have download GMAT.
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    Challenge Mars orbital transfer

    Ajaja Congrats! I wondered if anyone was making headway with this. Although deceptively simple, this isn't an easy challenge: one needs to recognise that this orbital transfer problem can't be solved using simple analytical techniques; and the standard Orbiter suite of trajectory planning...
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    Vernal Equinox and True Anomaly point on earth's orbit

    I always have to do these by reverting to the basic Euler angle transformations between ecliptic and equatorial coordinates and then grinding methodically through the algebra. But having just done that I find that the equinox corresponding to the 0 degree axis is indeed (as per 'BrianJ') just...
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    Putting it all together - a sixth-order integrator

    This note is going to be about building a high-fidelity integration engine for Orbiter that takes into account the gravitational influence of other bodies (tidal forces) and the 'non-spherical gravity sources' that Orbiter attributes to each body. In a subsequent post, I will show how this...
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    Orbiter Screenshot Thread

    Target practice with Delta Gliders OK, so what's interesting about this? It's just a screen shot of two Delta Gliders rather unrealistically passing through each other. Yes, true. However.... Each Delta Glider is orbiting at around 7550 m/s in orbital planes oriented at right angles to...
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    From BCI to BCBF and back again

    This note sets out the transformations that Orbiter uses to convert points in its 'body-centred inertial' (BCI)reference frame to its 'body-centred, body-fixed' reference frame. (The BCI reference frame is a generalisation of the Earth-centred inertial (ECI) reference frame applying to any...
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    Do we see into the future in ORBITER?

    Yes, it does seem miraculous that the offsetting forces do appear in the equations of motion. I’m sure there is a clear explanation for this offset and I will rummage through the internet in search of one. If I am successful, I will post.
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    Do we see into the future in ORBITER?

    Yes, the speed of gravity is finite. And so you might think that the direction of the gravitational force should not act towards the instantaneous position of the gravitating body. But this isn’t the case. In analogy with a relativistic treatment of electromagnetism, there are counter-balancing...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    Just as a quick comment: if you are integrating in an inertial frame of reference centred on SSB then you don’t need the tidal terms. Using them would be ‘double counting’ and will lead to an error. It’s only if you are integrating in a non-inertial ECI coordinate system that you do need to add...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    Are you saying that checking a simulation with another simulation is better than checking a simulation against reality? No, I'm not saying that. All that I'm saying is that Orbiter can provide a controlled test of model formulation. As I understand it, you have two possibilities: either you...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    OK, I guess that this means that we can rule out DOPRI as a significant source of error. Let's focus on the TLEs.. My understanding is that you are using the TLEs from one epoch to inform the initial state vectors of the DOPRI integrator and then, after computing the final state vectors using...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    I also don't know much about the DOPRI integrator either. Most integrators are subject to errors of one kind or another. It's always a good idea to run an integrator against a known analytical solution (e.g., pure Keplerian elliptical motion, to see how accurate the integrator is under...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    Here's my experiment: 1) calculate the state of the GPS PRN 07 satellite with the SDP4 propagator for the TLE 18001.44476542 2) propagate the state with the DOPRI853 integrator 3) for all the subsequent TLEs, calculate the difference between the DOPRI position and the TLE position for the TLE...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    I've had a chance to run a test of the tidal contributions in the equations of motion in the ECI reference frame. A brief description of the test Before presenting the results, I should describe the specific test performed. * I placed a Delta-Glider in a circular orbit around the Earth with an...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    Indeed, your expressions are vectors. In vector form, the ECI equations of motion are: \mathbf{Q}''(t) = -\frac{\mu _e}{\Delta r_e^3}\mathbf{Q}(t) + \sum_i\left(\frac{\mu _i}{\Delta r_i^3}\left(\mathbf{Q}_i(t)-\mathbf{Q}(t)\right) - \frac{\mu_i}{\Delta r_{e,i}^3}\mathbf{Q}_i(t)\right) where...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    The signs are correct, I think. But note that r_xx is always greater than zero because one is taking the dot product of the vector and then the positive square root. So, the sign shouldn't matter. I'll double check via numerical experiment over the weekend that I haven't slipped up on a sign...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    Starting from a clean sheet, I re-derived the ECI equations of motion in Mathematica using a slightly different approach (Lagrangian mechanics) and got the same result. So, unless I'm having a brain-freeze, I think the equations of motion are OK. Also note that: temp = y[sat] - y[earth]...
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    The ECI reference frame and tidal forces

    Yes, basically, the sum of the three accelerations is just the right-hand side of the following equations of motion in the ECI reference frame: X''(t) = -\frac{\mu _e}{\Delta r_e^3}X(t) + \sum_i\left(\frac{\mu _i}{\Delta r_i^3}\left(X_i(t)-X(t)\right) - \frac{\mu_i}{\Delta...
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