Updates Artemis III

[GLS]

Here we go again

https://twitter.com/x/status/2046221928063476219

https://twitter.com/x/status/2045985199159398882

 

[dennis.krenz]

After the mission is before the mission!

 

[GLS]

2028 then

https://twitter.com/x/status/2048942382708613212

 

[GLS]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2049124059175092701

 

[GLS]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2050606237696335904

 

[Sbb1413]

I don't know why the launch is slated to 2027 if the rocket and the ship are going to be ready this year. Oh, it involves one or two HLSes, and I hear almost zero updates from Blue Origin and SpaceX regarding this.

 

[GLS]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2051750373056999768

The Artemis III mission profile is still being finalized. For the purposes of responses to this RFI, the following Ground Rules and Assumptions can be considered:

• Summer 2027 Artemis III Mission
• Orion will be around a 250 nmi orbit with a 33 deg inclination
• Non-Critical (Crit 3) Application

 

[jedidia]

I suggest pigeons!

 

[dennis.krenz]

I suggest pigeons!

Note to self: Propose a research project to investigate the navigation skills of pigeons in cislunar orbits.

 

[GLS]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2052001297390350555

 

[GLS]

Update your models:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054668817045864678

 

[gattispilot]

I wonder what the spacer will look like

 

[barrygolden]

No pictures yet but I would think same size as the ICPS but just a hollow tube

 

[gattispilot]

So just a hollow tube no thruster structure? So just take the ICPS body and remove the center stuff?

 

[GLS]

Eyeballing it, the c.g. of the tanked stage should be somewhere in the top half of the LOX tank (the bottom one), so the dummy stage would need something below what is visible outside.
ASCII art time:

   -------
   | ICPS|
   |DUMMY|
   -------
  /  |c|  \
 /   |g|   \
/           \

A few tons of lead in that "cg" box below could work.

 

[GLS]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2057133958379221063

 

[barrygolden]

Wow !!! big changes coming to Artemis 3 with the destruction of the New Glenn pad and rocket estimates about a year before another one flys. so lot of things are looking to change. I wonder if Isaacman is rethinking the SLS plan, might need to use one to light the MK 2 lander into orbit so we would only have 1 SLS left for Artemis 4 . SLS 5 is being built as we speak but only 2 parts for SLS 6 in the factory and not funds to build it as of yet . I thought NASA was trending to use New Glenn to launch Orion. Might have to rethink that as of now. Didn't seem like much info in that Moon Base briefing other than the contracts for small rovers and hoppers, as well as a manned rover to the Moon for Artemis 4, but it was to be delivered on a New Glenn. it should be ready by then . Still no contract for a Centaur upper stage as of now for Artemis 5. It seems to take about 2 years to build an SLS we need to see a contract for missions beyond Artemis 5 .

this is starting to sounds alot like Space Station Freedom, we were told 8 1/2 billion dollars and 10 years ready to fly, at the end of 10 years and the money all spent we had some really cool computer images and a gaggle of paint samples. NASA scrambled and thank god for the Russians and Mir and their help to build the ISS but at what cost. the the guys who figured this our all retired and moved to Fisher Island with their fat pensions and consulting gigs to make up for ends meet.

No one is asking the real questions.
I did see a chart even though it was older of how NASA was doing to pay for all this and if you look at everything above the blue line got canned. I wonder what the current graft would look like. Might be ugly.

More to this story I am sure