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One of the reasons I'm happy to be in the Star Trek fandom (since 2009) is because of the prevalent creator-bashing in the Star Wars fandom.

(although there are the TOS purists as well and those complaining about the JJ Abrams reboot)
 
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One of the reasons I'm happy to be in the Star Trek fandom (since 2009) is because of the prevalent creator-bashing in the Star Wars fandom.

(although there are the TOS purists as well and those complaining about the JJ Abrams reboot)

I'd have to admit, I'm a TOS purist. In my opinion Voyager and Enterprise (NX-01) are massively overrated. Saying that; I do like Deep Space Nine and The Next Generation along with The Original Series.

In summary; Tribbles (a.k.a. Donald Trump's legendary toupee room) were the best. :p
 

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This guy:

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This just "popped" at me in the local newspaper. I had to do it:
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No it wasn't, but it's the only one of the 6 that I've only seen once.

Did you say 6? STOP

As for SW vs ST: I think I'm more of a Star Trek fan. STOP See, Star Wars is not science fiction. STOP It's science fantasy. STOP

Science fiction is always based around real science or scientific concepts or theories. STOP Science fantasy pays no attention to how realistic the technological concepts are. STOP

Now, I'm not saying everything in Star Trek is based on realistic concepts (like artificial gravity, inertial dampening, beaming people up, or all the aliens being humanoid) but it does make a good effort to explain itself in the context of modern science. STOP It's even set in the future of Earth, as many other science fiction series are, whether novels or movies. STOP Think of the Asimov Robot and Foundation series, or the Stephen Baxter books about the future of our civilization and the Xeelee. STOP Movies like 2001: a.S.O., I, Robot, Sunshine, Minority Report, and A.I. are only a few good examples of this. STOP

Star Wars is in some galaxy far far away a long time ago, space ships fly like airplanes, and it suffers from the same "humanoid alien problem" or whatever you want to call it. STOP There are light-sabers which can cut through almost anything. STOP There's even the "force". STOP Almost everything about Star Wars is fantasy. STOP It's always been more about the characters and the story then the technology. STOP

And lets not forget the one problem almost no one seems to care about- you know- there's no sound in space and most directors are too lazy to care about it! STOP In the new 2009 Star Trek movie, I almost thought they considered this for a few shots. STOP A person gets sucked into space and the sound fades away until the next shot. STOP And in the scene where Kirk, Sulu, and Olsen jump from the shuttle from the drill, you hear silence (and them breathing inside their suits at one point) until they start to enter the atmosphere, and the sound of air rushing by gets louder as the atmosphere gets thicker. STOP Even in the very first shot you only hear radio waves and transmissions, which kind of makes sense if you were going to "hear" anything in a vacuum. STOP Unfortunately this was not the case for the rest of the movie, with the sounds of explosions and weapons firing heard in a vacuum. STOP I get the feeling someone realized this whole problem during Star Trek's production, maybe it was J.J. Abrams himself (since he's the director, but who knows?) and managed to get a couple shots to respect such silence. STOP All those shots with silence are actually more impressive than shots with explosions! STOP In Star Wars, this is never considered at all. STOP We always hear explosions in space. STOP Like I said, Star Wars isn't remotely about being scientifically accurate. STOP

Anyway, this is basically the reason fans of both Star Wars and Star Trek can't seem to stop fighting. STOP They don't realize they're comparing apples and oranges, or to be more accurate, fiction and fantasy. STOP They're both fruit, but different kinds of fruit. STOP

I like the three original Star Wars movies. STOP They aren't my absolute favorites, but they are good movies. STOP I can say exactly the same for the first six Star Trek movies, and the recent reboot. STOP These are all good movies. STOP Of course, there's literally more to like about Star Trek than Star Wars since there also happen to be a TV series from which the movies are based (remember?). STOP I suppose that in my opinion, Star Trek is more appealing since it ties itself into real science. STOP
 

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I was being sarcastic. What would you have put?

So was I. Its John Young, one cool customer. Flew the first Gemini ,Apollo 10, Apollo 16, STS-1, STS-9, would have flown on the mission that deployed the Hubble Space Telescope had STS-51L been successful.

Pretty impressive dude, so, I was just playing on that.

No ill intent from me, just fun and games. :tiphat:

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George Lucas is the luckiest SOB on the face of the planet. The guy can't direct, he can't write dialogue, he can't edit, everything with the damn green screen, no clue how to pace, no clue how to not let the special effects outshine the actors, no clue on how digital video actually works (look at his "Definitive" cut of Star Wars Special Edition, where his "Experts" at ILM and Skywalker ranch butcher the sound mix, crush the blacks to the point where the image actually looses detail, the colours do not match and thus we get things like pink lightsabers, and the idiot shot Episode II in DVCPRO! Which for those who do not know, is a natvie 720P/1080i codec. So when the next level of TV standard comes in the future, all those movies shot in film stock or 4k video will be able to produce next-gen copies, Star Wars II will look just like it does now.

And J J Abrams.....if I wasn't such a fan of lens flares. The more I see his Star Trek film, the more disappointed I am. The thing was a mess. So much potential, so much fertile ground for an impressive story about Kirk in the academy. And what do we get? Kirk eating an apple, acting like a total tool during the Kobayashi Maru test.

Super 8 was an excellent film however. And for the most part, Lost was quality. Good writing, good characters, good production.
 

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Lost was a great show. Gave me something on TV to actually watch and and be gripped by. That's kinda hard to come by. I mean sure, there are plenty of comedy shows these days, but I want something to keep me guessing, you know?
 

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Currently Southland and The Walking Dead are the only things I'll watch on TV.
 

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I've been meaning to pick up the Walking Dead. You think the next season would be a good time to jump in?
 
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