Bug Travelling to another planet.

[ale131296]

I have a problem when I wanna go to another planet like Mars or Jupiter but that doesn't happen when I go from a planet to the planet's Moon (If I'm orbiting Jupiter and I wanna go to Io, that bug doesn't appear).

I use Orbiter 2010 and my PC has Windows 7 but I don't know if that has influence on the running of Orbiter.
Someone told me that when I've got certain add-ons they can produce that bugs but I don't which they are.

 

[PhantomCruiser]

Can you be more specific? What add-ons do you think might be causing a bug?
What problem are you having? What MFD are you using?
For planet to planet transfer, IMFD or TransX works very well.

 

[Keatah]

What is the problem? What is the bug?

 

[goaowonk]

Is your problem a flight problem or a sim's bug? Can you explain it?

[SPA]Por cierto, saludos, Alejandro, y bienvenido al foro [/SPA]

 

[garyw]

My crystal ball says that you are using transfer MFD to go from the planet to the planets moon. This is expected behaviour as transfer MFD is only for Major -> Minor so you can go from Sun to Earth to Moon but not from Earth to Jupiter.

Have a look at IMFD and/or TransX

 

[ale131296]

Oooh Sorry I didn't explain the bug! >.< BIUFF!! Ah ok, I'll tell you.
Well when I'm in Earth orbit and I go to another planet using TransX MFD (but I think this bug happens even if you don't use TransX MFD so I think that's not the problem)
and I'm approaching to the target planet, the sesion closes and Orbiter ends.

 

[ale131296]

Ah, no I know how to go to another planet thanks. But I know that If I didn't explain my problem, it's obvious that you wouldn't know it.

 

[Weirdo Earthtorch]

My crystal ball says that you are using transfer MFD to go from the planet to the planets moon. This is expected behaviour as transfer MFD is only for Major -> Minor so you can go from Sun to Earth to Moon but not from Earth to Jupiter.

I thought Transfer MFD could be used "for calculating transfer orbits between planets or moons (or more generally, between any objects with significantly different orbits, for which the Sync orbit MFD is not sufficient)" [Orbiter.pdf]

and (from the tutorials page) http://www.orbitermars.co.uk/oldindex.htm from the original? developer of TransX. Granted, TransX and IMFD are maybe more intuitive.

 

[statickid]

When I was first starting out with Orbiter, I used Transfer MFD to go to visit all planets :thumbup: I didn't always get there, and it wasn't very efficient, but it does work.

Actually I have experienced this problem enough(CTD after long flight) times that I save several times before i get into the SOI of the planet. For me it seems to have to do with about the time that the surface texture of the planet loads (or whatever). Therefore I am also interested in this topic, or tips on avoiding this. In fact, I am surprised when this DOESN'T happen.

 

[ale131296]

Well I know that the textures may be the problem but, why doesn't that happen when I go to a planet's moon from the planet? Do you know what I mean? I was trying to do it again and I can go from Earth to the Moon and from Jupiter to Europa but I can't go from Earth to Jupiter because at the middle of the travel the sesion closes and Orbiter ends and I don't know why it happens!! That's frustrating because it's cool being at a parking orbit around a planet but it's not as amazing as travelling each planet yourself.

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Oidme el que sea español o hispanohablante que me hable en español que facilita las cosas

 

[jedidia]

There's a file called orbiter.log in your orbiter folder. Please start orbiter, reproduce the crash, then post the contents of that file here.

 

[ale131296]

There's a file called orbiter.log in your orbiter folder. Please start orbiter, reproduce the crash, then post the contents of that file here.

Ok, I'll do it. Give me one hour.

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**** Orbiter.log
Build Aug 30 2010 [v.100830]
Timer precision: 7.32737e-007 sec
Found 0 joystick(s)
Devices enumerated: 6
Devices accepted: 5
==> RGB Emulation
==> Direct3D HAL
==> Direct3D T&L HAL
==> Direct3D HAL (AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics)
==> Direct3D T&L HAL (AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics)
Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 121120, API 100830]
Module TrackIR.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
TrackIR module not found.
Module Meshdebug.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module CustomMFD.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module LuaMFD.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module transx.dll ............ [Build 100824, API 100823]
Module LuaConsole.dll ........ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ScriptMFD.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ExtMFD.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module FlightData.dll ........ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module Framerate.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module Rcontrol.dll .......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module UnivPTG.dll ........... [Build 110305, API 100830]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiRegisterMFDMode
At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
future versions of Orbiter.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Module GPCMFD.dll ............ [Build 111222, API 100830]
Module RPOP.dll .............. [Build 111124, API 100830]

**** Creating simulation session
DirectDraw interface OK
Direct3D interface OK
Graphics: Viewport: Fullscreen 1600 x 900 x 32
Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
Loading 15382 records from star database
Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
Module Io.dll ................ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
Finished initialising world
Module DeltaGlider.dll ....... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module LuaInline.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ShuttleA.dll .......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ShuttlePB.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Finished initialising status
Finished initialising camera
Finished initialising panels
Finished setting up render state
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiGetStationCount
At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
future versions of Orbiter.
---------------------------------------------------------------

---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------

Is that what Jedidia said to me?

 

[turtle91]

Maybe it's a problem with some modules, which don't like "leaving the SOI of a planet".

I have had a similar issue some months ago with Kulch's excelent "Space Tankers", in my case the winged one, the Albatross. The Albatross has a special HUD which is showing reentry information. So the HUD references to Earth. Whenever I have tried to travel to the moon, Orbiter crashed (as soon as I have left Earth's SOI --->>> so HUD points to NULL (?), which might lead to a null pointer exceptrion...so a crash. Just a guess....
In your case, I would disable these modules (which are more designed for a Shuttle LEO mission, and try it again:

-Module UnivPTG.dll ........... [Build 110305, API 100830]
-Module GPCMFD.dll ............ [Build 111222, API 100830]
-Module RPOP.dll .............. [Build 111124, API 100830]

I have never used this modules for interplanetary flights, so it's just a guess.

 

[ale131296]

[/QUOTE]In your case, I would disable these modules (which are more designed for a Shuttle LEO mission, and try it again:

-Module UnivPTG.dll ........... [Build 110305, API 100830]
-Module GPCMFD.dll ............ [Build 111222, API 100830]
-Module RPOP.dll .............. [Build 111124, API 100830]

I have never used this modules for interplanetary flights, so it's just a guess.[/QUOTE]

Those modules have been in my Orbiter since yesterday and I hadn't them before yesterday so If I had a problem before having them this, problem can't be caused by those modules.

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My problem happens with DGIV, AF, Shuttle A, DGIII and a lot of more spacecraft so the problem there's not in the tipe of spacecraft that I use to travel.

The Textures maybe the problem. I don't know. I asked to you because you have more time than me to investigate Orbiter and you know what mean those numbers and strange words that appear in the configuration files... for me they are strange and I only understand some of them. I'm sure that you know what happens with those failed sesions on Orbiter. Thanks.

 

[garyw]

Is that the orbiter.log file AFTER Orbiter crashes?

It's not textures and I certainly don't have more time than you do to investigate this. You need to help us to help you but providing the information that we ask for.

 

[ale131296]

Is that the orbiter.log file AFTER Orbiter crashes?

It's not textures and I certainly don't have more time than you do to investigate this. You need to help us to help you but providing the information that we ask for.

The people who helped me before said me to put the Orbiter.log Folder AFTER, so I did that. That's NOT BEFORE Orbiter crashes. Thanks for your help.

 

[garyw]

There is nothing in the log that I can see which has caused the crash. Can you also post the scenario file you are using?

 

[ale131296]

It's after.

---------- Post added at 01:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:39 PM ----------

The scenario file?

---------- Post added at 01:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:40 PM ----------

Where can I found this file?

 

[garyw]

The scenario file is in the scenarios folder. The name will be the same as that which you double click on to launch orbiter.

 

[ale131296]

I used Quickstart, but I don't know how you are going to take information from a file that only says what there's at the begining of the sesion not at the end and why orbiter crashes... It's so strange but I'll post it. I want help. Thanks

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BEGIN_DESC
For newcomers eager to get off the ground: This is the starting scenario for the Quickstart mission in the Orbiter Manual.

Launch your Delta-glider from the Shuttle Landing Facility at the Kennedy Space Center.

The Quickstart tutorial is available during the simulation by opening the Help window (Alt-F1) and selecting the Scenario button.
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 55269.6701854908
  Help Default\Checklists\Quickstart,Quickstart
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship GL-01
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET GL-01
  MODE Cockpit
  FOV 50.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE HSI
  NAV 0 1
  OBS 5.34 5.76
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Map
  REF Earth
  OTARGET ISS
  BTARGET Habana
  POS 0.00 0.00
END_MFD

BEGIN_VC
END_VC

BEGIN_SHIPS
ISS:ProjectAlpha_ISS
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 6609477.84 -64359.79 -1263202.12
  RVEL 319.601 -7420.414 2031.754
  AROT 110.10 -10.53 79.96
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  IDS 0:588 10 1:586 10 2:584 10 3:582 10 4:580 10
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 466
END
Mir:Mir
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -5195338.23 -255691.43 -4181011.19
  RVEL 4853.171 -366.137 -6000.752
  AROT 0.07 -45.24 89.95
  IDS 0:540 100 1:542 100 2:544 100
  XPDR 482
END
Luna-OB1:Wheel
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -1012516.72 -1997252.07 317.24
  RVEL 1319.784 -669.094 0.141
  AROT 0.00 0.00 -92.62
  VROT 0.00 -0.00 10.00
  IDS 0:560 100 1:564 100
  XPDR 494
END
GL-01:DeltaGlider
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -80.6824940 28.5967940
  HEADING 330.01
  RCSMODE 0
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.995000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 94 524 84 114
  XPDR 0
  GEAR 1 1.0000
  PSNGR 2 3 4
  AAP 0:0 0:0 0:0
END
SH-03:ShuttleA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  BASE Habana:4
  POS -82.3982414 23.0005396
  HEADING 70.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
  PODANGLE 0.0000 0.0000
  DOCKSTATE 0 0.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  PAYLOAD MASS 0.0 0
END
PB-01:ShuttlePB
  STATUS Landed Earth
  BASE Habana:1
  POS -82.4000000 22.9994604
  HEADING 22.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
GL-02:DeltaGlider
  STATUS Landed Mars
  BASE Olympus:3
  POS -135.4300000 12.7366196
  HEADING 0.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0 0 0
  XPDR 0
  GEAR 1 1.0000
  AAP 0:0 0:0 0:0
END
SH-01:ShuttleA
  STATUS Landed Moon
  BASE Brighton Beach:1
  POS -33.4375000 41.1184067
  HEADING 0.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
  PODANGLE 0.0000 0.0000
  DOCKSTATE 0 0.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  PAYLOAD MASS 0.0 0
END
END_SHIPS

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Hahahaha There's an emoticon in the text that I posted hahaha :lol:

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HELP ME PLEASE!!! I can't go from a planet to another planet and I want to do that without problems.