This ALWAYS happens- EAFB 2006.1

myles · Mar 24, 2008

Hello...
I (as usual) am having trouble with my canaveral.cfg... Whenever I use EAFB 2006, I usually have to edit the CFG so this doesn't happen, but I deleted all my installations and am trying to fix this. I already tried messing with the file, but no result... (also note the 2[4] Runways and 2 VAB's...

My Canaveral.CFG:

Code:

BASE-V2.0
Name = Cape Canaveral
Location = -80.675 +28.5208
Size = 1000
MapObjectsToSphere = TRUE

BEGIN_NAVBEACON
VOR KSCX -80.53835 28.43352 112.70 500
END_NAVBEACON

BEGIN_OBJECTLIST
MESH
    FILE vab
    OWNMATERIAL
    POS -6500 0 1900
    SHADOW
    PRELOAD
END
BLOCK
    POS -10000 0 -2000
    SCALE 80 15 60
    ROT 30
    TEX1 Fcd11 7.5 1.5
    TEX2 Fcd11 7.5 1.5
    TEX3 Roof01 4 3
END
BLOCK
    POS -9000 0 -1400
    SCALE 40 15 30
    ROT 30
    TEX1 Fcd04 2 1
    TEX2 Fcd04 2 1
    TEX3 Roof01 2 3
END
BLOCK
    POS -11500 0 -3000
    SCALE 40 15 30
    ROT 30
    TEX1 Fcd04 2 1
    TEX2 Fcd04 2 1
    TEX3 Roof01 2 3
END
MESH
    FILE KSC_8
    POS 0 -5 0
    TEX Cape23
    PRELOAD
END
MESH ; Pad 39B base
    FILE KSC_4
    POS -11000 0 5050
    ROT 178
    TEX Cape19
    SHADOW
    PRELOAD
END
LPAD2
    POS -8963 0 6655
    ROT 180
    SCALE 0.01
END
RUNWAY
    END1 -7400 0 -850
    END2 -11970 0 -3490
    WIDTH 100
    ILS1 134.2
    ILS2 134.2
    RWTEX Runway2
    NRWSEG 15
    RWSEG1 1 0.025 0.5 0.75 1 0.852
    RWSEG2 1 0.025 0.5 0.75 1 0.852
    RWSEG3 1 0.007 0.5 0.75 0.852 0.7305
    RWSEG4 1 0.06 0.5 0.75 0.5 0.03125
    RWSEG5 1 0.007 0.5 0.75 0.7305 0.6133
    RWSEG6 1 0.1 0.5 0.75 0.5 0.03125
    RWSEG7 1 0.007 0.5 0.75 0.6133 0.5
    RWSEG8 6 0.538 0.5 0.75 0.5 0.03125
    RWSEG9 1 0.007 0.5 0.75 0.5 0.6133
    RWSEG10 1 0.1 0.5 0.75 0.03125 0.5
    RWSEG11 1 0.007 0.5 0.75 0.6133 0.7305
    RWSEG12 1 0.06 0.5 0.75 0.03125 0.5
    RWSEG13 1 0.007 0.5 0.75 0.7305 0.852
    RWSEG14 1 0.025 0.5 0.75 0.852 1
    RWSEG15 1 0.025 0.5 0.75 0.852 1
END
RUNWAYLIGHTS
    END1 -7400 -3 -850
    END2 -11970 -12 -3490
    WIDTH 100
    PAPI 20.0 3.0 -2000
    VASI 1.5 152 671
END
RUNWAY
    END1 7520 0 11500
    END2 5590 0 9030
    WIDTH 100
    ILS1 132.6
    ILS2 132.6
    RWTEX Runway2
    NRWSEG 9
    RWSEG1 1 0.018 0.25 0.5 1 0.875
    RWSEG2 1 0.088 0 0.25 0.5 0
    RWSEG3 1 0.018 0.25 0.5 0.75 0.625
    RWSEG4 1 0.088 0 0.25 0.5 0
    RWSEG5 5 0.576 0 0.25 1 0.5
    RWSEG6 1 0.088 0 0.25 0.5 0
    RWSEG7 1 0.02 0.25 0.5 0.625 0.75
    RWSEG8 1 0.088 0 0.25 0 0.5
    RWSEG9 1 0.02 0.25 0.5 0.875 1
END
RUNWAYLIGHTS
    END1 7520 -13 11500
    END2 5590 -7 9030
    WIDTH 100
END
END_OBJECTLIST

BEGIN_SURFTILELIST
1 -232 82 1
1 -232 81 1
1 -232 80 1
1 -231 82 3
1 -231 81 1
1 -231 80 1
1 -230 80 3
2 -460 164 3
2 -460 163 3
3 -920 325 1
3 -920 324 1
3 -920 323 1
3 -919 325 1
3 -919 324 1
3 -919 323 1
3 -918 326 3
3 -918 325 3
3 -918 324 1
3 -918 323 1
3 -917 325 3
3 -917 324 3
3 -917 323 3
END_SURFTILELIST

I even tried reinstalling the canaveral.cfg...

Also, the runway lights always seem to be a meter or so above the ground... is there any fixing that?

P.S.- Thanks, Tex! I love the forum and the ability to upload directly here!

P.P.S. - I am using not only the version on OrbitHangar, but the additional HiRes Version from Slat's site, and it doesn't even seem that the press site is there, or any of the normal ground view points like OTV 70, and the perimeter cameras...

Thanks,

Myles

OneTinSoldier · Mar 25, 2008

I don't know how to help much, I'm still pretty new to Orbiter. But have you considered trying EAFB 2006.2? 2006.2 claims to have been updated to be compatible with Orbiter 2006 P1(Patch 1), whereas 2006.1 is for Orbiter 2006. Are you running Orbiter 2006 or Orbiter 2006 P1? If your running Orbiter 2006 P1 then perhaps that's the issue?

I have 2006.2 Hi-Res installed(also requires Hi-res KSC.zip from Orbit Hanger) and I don't have the problem you are, but I can't seem to get the animation to work. It says to press 'k' to retract the service rotating structure but all I get is the sound of the structure moving, but no movement. Note, before pressing 'k' I make sure that my external view is focused on PAD 39B. Animation still doesn't work, sound only. Perhaps my problem is that I've only tried this so far while using Shuttle Fleet 4.0.1, and animation will only work while using the stock Atlantis Shuttle? Anyone here know if that's the problem? I have to take off with my Shuttle still enclosed in the structure. Pfffft.

jgrillo2002 · Mar 25, 2008

sounds like you got a messed up configuration of KSC. I suggest using Kukonata's HiRes KSC Textures. you can find it here
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=2811"]Hi-res Kennedy Space Center[/ame]
. but please read its instructions carefully

myles · Mar 25, 2008

Jgrillo, sorry, but I used to always use 2006.1 on Orbiter P1. I know it will work, and I just forgot to back up the canaveral.cfg when I made a new installation of Orbiter. I just need to know how to fix the config file for Cape Canaveral. I think I remember reading somewhere that you delete the VAB entry in it. I will try that. But I also need the correct coordinates for the runways to match up with their place on the surface tiles, along with the correct tiles. (along with "lowered" lights, they are a meter off the ground, which is slightly weird when landing a shuttle).

EDIT- Discovery! It's not the runway and VAB that needs to be moved, it's the tiles! Everything is offset by that much- the VAB and the 2 runways.

EDIT2: I also noticed: There is no pad!!! (or press site, etc)- just the runways and the VAB...

Thanks,
Myles

myles · Mar 25, 2008

Okay, taking out the VAB entry worked. Now my only problem is getting the pads up, putting in the press site, and aligning the surface tiles correctly... any takers? Anyone else here who uses EAFB 2006.1? I'll try messing around some more, and I'll post another Earth.cfg later....

myles · Mar 25, 2008

Success! Everything is now alligned: There was one file that I named as canaveral.cfg.bak, and it happened to have the correct surface tile. The only thing now is that the Press Site isn't showing up, even though it is in the Canaveral.cfg... How do I get it to show up?

Also, which addon gives the observation points, where it says which TV it is, like OTV-070, or Perimeter Camera? I really enjoy those observation points...

EDIT: They are included in EAFB 2006.3.... Now I am trying to get the Press Site showing... Then I'll add another pad...

EDIT: The Press Site is there... I found it

Now to just add the other pad...

Thanks!,
Myles

myles · Mar 25, 2008

Adding the other pad: I need help with the POS parameter. I know its the distance from the base marker, but HOW do I find it? I know it's the distance from it, but how do I find that distance? The longitudinal differences are 0.070658
The latitudinal differences are -0.087609.

In other words, KSC is here: -80.675, +28.5208

The pad is here: -80.604342, +28.608409

Thanks!

Myles

OneTinSoldier · Mar 25, 2008

jgrillo2002 said:
sounds like you got a messed up configuration of KSC. I suggest using Kukonata's HiRes KSC Textures. you can find it here
http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=2811
. but please read its instructions carefully

Hello,

Sorry, but I'm having a little trouble understanding your reply. I mean, hopefully not for nothing, but you might want to re-read my post...

.
.
(also requires Hi-res KSC.zip from Orbit Hanger)

.
.

Now click on the link you provided for Kukonata's HiRes KSC Textures and look at it's filename.

As I said, Hi-res KSC.zip a requirement for using EAFB-2006.2, so....... I DO have that installed. Did I read the Doc? Sure, you bet I did. Did I do something wrong? Maybe, probably. I'll re-read everything and check everything over again and perhaps something will turn up.

I know you're only trying to help, but I found your post to be a little confusing to me since I had already stated that the addon you specified in your post is a requirement for 2006.2.

Regards

OneTinSoldier · Mar 25, 2008

myles said:
Adding the other pad: I need help with the POS parameter. I know its the distance from the base marker, but HOW do I find it? I know it's the distance from it, but how do I find that distance? The longitudinal differences are 0.070658
The latitudinal differences are -0.087609.

In other words, KSC is here: -80.675, +28.5208

The pad is here: -80.604342, +28.608409

Thanks!

Myles

Hi,

I'm not sure if this thread will help you out or not, but if it is of help, great!

lon/lat distance:

http://orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=127

myles · Mar 25, 2008

Thanks, OneTinSoldier!
Okay, with the help of AR81's Surface Base tutorial, I am ALMOST finished... ONE TEENY last thing...

The MLP doesn't show up, along with a few other towers (for my 2nd pad, the 1st one is fine). My 2 entries are virtually identical exept for the positions....

Code:

; --- Pad 39B --- 
MESH    
    FILE STSmlp
    OWNMATERIAL
    POS -11843.8 30 5269.3
    ROT 90
    SHADOW
    PRELOAD
END
MESH
    FILE STSpad39B
    OWNMATERIAL 
    POS -11777 46.5 5257
    ROT 180
    SHADOW
    PRELOAD
END
; --- Pad 39A ---
MESH
    FILE STSmlp
    OWNMATERIAL
    POS -9753.4 30 6599.4 
    ROT 90
    SHADOW
    PRELOAD
MESH
    FILE STSpad39B
    OWNMATERIAL
    POS -9686.6 46.5 6891.7 
    ROT 180
    SHADOW
    PRELOAD    
END

EDIT: Found it! It doesn't have "END"

myles · Mar 26, 2008

Okay, now whoever has this same issue, here is the Canaveral.cfg

And here are the Observation Points:

Code:

BEGIN_OBSERVER
KSC:N. Beach J8-1821:    -80.59779    28.5998    6
KSC:Site B SLF:    -80.69649    28.60785    6
KCS:UCS-5:    -80.66949    28.63694    6
KSC:UCS-7:    -80.61139    28.61437    6
KSC:UCS-9:    -80.64269    28.65642    6
KSC:UCS-10:    -80.67189    28.6959    6
KSC:UCS-15:    -80.61229    28.57094    6
KSC:UCS-17:    -80.64419    28.59473    6
KSC:Aircraft 1:    -80.05339    28.71586    15000
KSC:Aircraft 2:    -80.38779    29.13134    15000
KSC:Apollo Beach:    -80.78009    28.8505    6
KSC:Cocoa Beach:    -80.60999    28.34416    6
KSC:LC-46:    -80.53229    28.45127    6
KSC:PAFB:    -80.60349    28.21982    6
KSC:Playalinda Beach:    -80.67249    28.69566    6
KSC:Ponce Inlet:    -80.91689    29.05978    6
KSC:Shiloh:    -80.84089    28.81228    6
KSC:UCS-1:    -80.65429    28.45705    6
KSC:UCS-3:    -80.57749    28.5679    6
KSC:UCS-11:    -80.72289    28.67963    6
KSC:UCS-23:    -80.56289    28.4962    6
KSC:UCS-25:    -80.57149    28.42951    6
EDW:Tower: -117.88416 34.91723 50.00
KSC:LC-39B Water Tower: -80.61991 28.62838 96.10
KSC:VAB roof: -80.65156 28.58481 220.80
KSC:Press site: -80.645031 +28.581385 1.80
EDW:Tower: -117.882274 34.922721 54 -6.14 0.03
WSSH:Tower: -106.410170 32.93811 50.20 -6.14 0.03
REENTRY:Krystal Falls: -98.900006 32.895549 2
KSC:39A (OTV-070): -80.60284 28.60621 2.00
KSC:39A (OTV-071): -80.605592 +28.606354 2.00
KSC:39B (OTV-170): -80.61947 28.62510 2.00
KSC:39B (OTV-171): -80.622166 +28.625428 2.00
KSC:39A Water Tower Camera 60: -80.602978 +28.609441 96.10
KSC:39B Water Tower Camera 160: -80.61991 28.62838 96.10
KSC:39A (OTV-060): -80.60296 28.60935 2.00
KSC:39B (OTV-160): -80.61965 28.62819 2.00
KSC:39A Perimeter Camera TV-7A (OTV-041): -80.59995 28.60842 2.00
KSC:39B Perimeter Camera (OTV-141): -80.61666 28.62732 2.00
KSC:VAB Roof (TV-5): -80.651239 +28.585308 177.80
KSC:Press site Clock Shot (TV-50): -80.645452 +28.581994 2.00
KSC:SLF Tower: -80.690411 +28.616292 50.90
KSC Long Range:UCS-1: -80.64237 28.49330 2.00
KSC Long Range:UCS-3: -80.56664 28.54920 2.00
KSC Medium Range:UCS-6: -80.66641 28.64399 2.00
KSC Medium Range:UCS-7: -80.60729 28.62157 2.00
KSC Medium Range:UCS-9: -80.63913 28.66435 2.00
KSC Medium Range:UCS-10: -80.66833 28.70289 2.00
KSC Long Range:UCS-11: -80.69928 28.68525 2.00
KSC Medium Range:UCS-15: -80.60850 28.57859 2.00
KSC Medium Range:UCS-17: -80.64089 28.60231 2.00
KSC Long Range:UCS-23: -80.59787 28.53251 2.00
KSC Medium Range:Beach Site: -80.58922 28.60209 2.00
KSC Long Range:Shiloh: -80.77172 28.75182 2.00
KSC Long Range:C.B. DOAMS: -80.60618 28.36955 2.00
KSC Long Range:Playalinda DOAMS: -80.66823 28.70277 2.00
KSC Long Range:Apollo Beach: -80.77627 28.85766 2.00
KSC Long Range:Complex 46: -80.53103 28.45446 2.00
EDW:Tower: -117.882274 34.922721 54 
EDW:Camera 1: -117.85559 34.91959 2.00 
EDW:Camera 2: -117.87045 34.90870 2.00 
EDW:Camera 3: -117.87864 34.90440 2.00
EDW:Camera 4: -117.89578 34.89588 2.00
WSSH:Tower: -106.410170 32.93811 50.20 
WSSH:Camera 1: -106.40368 32.94184 1.00 
REENTRY:Krystal Falls: -98.900006 32.895549 2.00
TAL:Banjul: -16.652206 13.337961 8000 -2.56 -1.53
TAL:Benguerir: -7.560000 +32.150000 8000 -2.56 -1.53
TAL:Istres: 4.934770 +43.507574 8000 -2.56 -1.53
TAL:Moron: -5.615944 37.174917 8000 -2.56 -1.53
TAL:Zaragoza: -1.041553 41.666242 8000 -2.56 -1.53
END_OBSERVER

Thanks for the help!

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