Orbiter 2016 Beta Crashes

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When I try to start Orbiter 2016 Beta, it gets to the loading screen where it says Beta with the Earth behind it but then it completely crashes out of Orbiter entirely and goes back to the desktop. Does anyone know what the problem could possibly be?
 

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When I try to start Orbiter 2016 Beta, it gets to the loading screen where it says Beta with the Earth behind it but then it completely crashes out of Orbiter entirely and goes back to the desktop. Does anyone know what the problem could possibly be?

Hi!
Can you post the log?
 
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How can I find the log? I'm new to this entire thing and I'm not really sure what I'm doing.
 

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Welcome jackswigert1970 !

The log is in your "root folder", that is the folder you created to put Orbiter in.

It's called (not surprisingly) "Orbiter.log"

It's normally close to the "orbiter.exe" file in the list.

Wrapping it in 'code' or 'php' tags will make it easier to read :thumbup:
 

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I looked through my folders and didn't find any file called "Orbiter.log"
 
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Maybe you better not try running the Beta version right now. Can you run the original vanilla Orbiter ?
 
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Maybe you better not try running the Beta version right now. Can you run the original vanilla Orbiter ?

Kind of. Some of it works but some doesn't. I'm trying to play NASSP but only the Apollo 7 mission works. I was told that I had to install Orbiter Beta for NASSP to be able to run properly.
 

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There's probably alot more to it than that.

Oh, and Welcome to Orbiter BTW.
 

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...as GLS stated, a read-only folder is very unlikely.
I suspect it to be an UAC issue.

@jackswigert1970: Could you please post us the path you've installed Orbiter in?
If it's at "C:\Program Files" or "c:\Program Files (x86)" you might run into some issues.
You could remove any restrictions on that (sub-)folder by right-clicking on that Orbiter folder and grant full-access to it under the Security tab...
Or just move it to another location.

Ah and you could also double-check the instructions of the documentation (at {ORBITER_ROOT}\Doc\Orbiter.pdf) Chapter 3.3 Installation
 
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Thanks for your help guys. I don't understand any of what you're saying. I know nothing about the folder stuff. I'll probably just give it up unless someone actually can tell me exactly what to do. Thanks
 

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Let's start again. Do you not have a file called "Orbiter.log" in the same folder as the Orbiter.exe/Orbiter_ng.exe file? That file will be there when Orbiter has been started, so it really should exist if you ever tried to start Orbiter.
 

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@jackswigert1970: I interpret your first post that you have been able to start Orbiter (the Launchpad dialog) and did startup a scenario ("welcome" scenario?!), right?

In that case, a file called "Orbiter.log" must have been created! It's located (on your hard-drive) at the same place the Orbiter.exe is located you ran.

BTW: Don't give up so early! There will be plenty of times something doesn't go right the first time ...it's (kind of) rocket science... :p
 

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Same thing happens with me, but OrbiterBeta is in D: Drive and here is the log with Apollo 11 scenario:
Code:
**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Sep  5 2018 [v.180905]
000000.000: Timer precision: 3.66534e-07 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module ProjectApolloConfigurator.dll  [Build 190208, API 160828]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: BaseDir    : D:\Orbiter\Beta\NASSP\
000000.000: ConfigDir  : D:\Orbiter\Beta\NASSP\Config\
000000.000: MeshDir    : D:\Orbiter\Beta\NASSP\Meshes\
000000.000: TextureDir : D:\Orbiter\2016\Full\Textures\
000000.000: HightexDir : D:\Orbiter\2016\Full\Textures2\
000000.000: ScenarioDir: D:\Orbiter\Beta\NASSP\Scenarios\
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: D3D9 DLLs  : C:\Windows\system32\d3d9.dll [v 6.1.7601.17514]
000000.000:            : C:\Windows\system32\d3dx9_43.dll [v 9.29.952.3111]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module D3D9Client.dll ........ [Build 190115, API 180811]
000000.000: Module TrackIR.dll ........... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: TrackIR module not found.
000000.000: Module CustomMFD.dll ......... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module LuaMFD.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module transx.dll ............ [Build 160216, API 160214]
000000.000: Module LuaConsole.dll ........ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module ScriptMFD.dll ......... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module XRSound.dll ........... [Build 180309, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ExtMFD.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module ProjectApolloMFD.dll .. [Build 190208, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ApolloRTCCMFD.dll ..... [Build 190208, API 160828]
000000.000: Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 180310, API 160828]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: D3D9: [DirectX 9 Initialized]
000000.000:             D3D9: 3D-Adapter.............. : Intel(R) HD Graphics
000000.000:             D3D9: MaxTextureWidth......... : 8192
000000.000:             D3D9: MaxTextureHeight........ : 8192
000000.000:             D3D9: MaxTextureRepeat........ : 8192
000000.000:             D3D9: VolTexAddressCaps....... : 0x3F
000000.000:             D3D9: NumSimultaneousRTs...... : 4
000000.000:             D3D9: VertexDeclCaps.......... : 0x37F
000000.000:             D3D9: MiscCaps................ : 0x2FCCF2
000000.000:             D3D9: XNA Math Support........ : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: Vertex Texture.......... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: Shadow Mapping.......... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F.... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F.... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DFMT_D32F_LOCKABLE.... : No
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DFMT_A2R10G10B10...... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DFMT_L8............... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_DEC3N......... : No
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_2..... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_4..... : Yes
000000.000:             D3D9: Runs under WINE......... : No
000000.000:             D3D9: Available Texture Memory : 773 MB
000000.000: D3D9: [3DDevice Initialized]
000000.000: D3D9: [Loading Constellations]
000000.000: D3D9: [D3D9Client Initialized]
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1.0e-06, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmNRLMSISE00.dll  [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1.0e-08, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: ELP82: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 116/829
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1.0e-06, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1.0e-06, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1.0e-06, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 180905, API 180811]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1.0e-06, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: GetVesselSoundID3(0CC6C4F8)
 
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Let's start again. Do you not have a file called "Orbiter.log" in the same folder as the Orbiter.exe/Orbiter_ng.exe file? That file will be there when Orbiter has been started, so it really should exist if you ever tried to start Orbiter.

No I don't have an Orbiter.log file anywhere that I can see.
 

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No I don't have an Orbiter.log file anywhere that I can see.
Do you have show file extensions enabled in Windows Explorer? You can do this by clicking on View and then checking the box for File extensions.
 

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Re Orbiter 2016 Beta Crashes

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So I downloaded the latest Beta to see if the shuttle works.
I started at delta glider scn and ctd
Code:
**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Sep 14 2019 [v.190914]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-07 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 6
000000.000: Devices accepted: 5
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: DirectDraw interface OK
000000.000: Direct3D interface OK
000000.000: Graphics: Viewport: Window 1904 x 1041 x 32
000000.000: Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
000000.000: Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
000000.000: Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
000000.000: Loading 15382 records from star database
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1.0e-06, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1.0e-08, Terms 2564/2564
 

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So I downloaded the latest Beta to see if the shuttle works.
I started at delta glider scn and ctd
Code:
**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Sep 14 2019 [v.190914]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-07 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 6
000000.000: Devices accepted: 5
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: DirectDraw interface OK
000000.000: Direct3D interface OK
000000.000: Graphics: Viewport: Window 1904 x 1041 x 32
000000.000: Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
000000.000: Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
000000.000: Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
000000.000: Loading 15382 records from star database
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1.0e-06, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1.0e-05, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 190914, API 190914]
000000.000: VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1.0e-08, Terms 2564/2564

It stopped when loading Earth, so I'd say it's a Earth.cfg issue or an surface tile issue.
Also, Orbiter Beta should be installed over an Orbiter 2016 installation, as some files are not in the repository.
 

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It stopped when loading Earth, so I'd say it's a Earth.cfg issue or an surface tile issue.
Also, Orbiter Beta should be installed over an Orbiter 2016 installation, as some files are not in the repository.
Yes I saw that.
Not sure what you mean by installed over an Orbiter installation.


I made a new folder for the beta and installed it from there.
 
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