Project Gemini

[4throck]

OK, I know that I'm getting into a lot trouble and work, but I've decided to develop a (I hope) updated Gemini add-on.

Before going further, I'm bringing up the issue of mesh reuse.
I'll reuse the existing meshes, with whatever updates needed for extra functionality.

I don't see a problem with this, because the meshes will be used for the purpose they were created, and under similar conditions (a free realistic Orbiter add-on).
Also, after more than 10 years of inactivity, it's unlikely the original authors wish to update it.

The original mesh authors will be credited of course - Don Gallagher, Scott Oehlerking, Brad Hodges and Dealer McDope.

I've started with the Agena as a kind of warm-up !
Will post some pictures once I have the position lights and the pannel working.

 

[Yuri_Gagarin]

Wait. Will this be intractive and have evas.

 

[Urwumpe]

I hope so. I wish we could get newer meshes for it, there are many details and subsystems missing in the old meshes.

 

[Donamy]

Rumors of my demise are exaggerated.

What are you looking to update ?

 

[Kyle]

This looks awesome! Do you also think you could do something for Mercury?

 

[Star Voyager]

Great news! Will the cockpit have an NASSP/SSU-level functionality?

 

[Urwumpe]

Great news! Will the cockpit have an NASSP/SSU-level functionality?

Would be nice, but the panels changed also a lot between every mission, depending on the hardware in the spacecraft.



Thats not too easy... but it would be nice to have.


I have a basic Gemini DLL here with a GDC computer emulation, but I am still stuck getting a good way how to model the analog logic parts of it.

EDIT: After testing the last state, I also discovered I had not properly implemented the residual sector handling in the GDC. Fixed it, still have a HOP instruction appearing where no HOP should be.

EDIT2: Did it now really take me 4 hours to find out that I did reset the residual sector flag too late in the flow...?

 

[Yuri_Gagarin]

Im guessing you`re talking about modifying gemini 4.5. Im just not in full gear but yes. I like those ideas. How bout we. Its an idea but we could have a 3d interactive cockpit instaed of those panels. But any would be nice.

 

[Urwumpe]

No, right now its rather this:

Its based on the available Gemini meshes right now as temporary stand-in, but with a new set of DLLs.

Mostly a small fun project and as I am pirating the meshes of other people there, I don't plan to release it, even when the core functionality is there. It makes use of XRSound now, but still lacks about everything.

 

[Yuri_Gagarin]

Cool.

 

[4throck]

Rumors of my demise are exaggerated.

What are you looking to update ?

First, are you one of the original mesh creators? Its hard to match full names to nicknames
If that's the case and you don't want the meshes used, just say so. I can model if needed !

My updates to the meshes will be small. Some working gauges and status lights to the VC.
For functionality, I hope to do something like the stock Atlantis.
So no, no working VC buttons or advanced system simulation, those are unrealistic goals for me.

 

[Lodkins]

so, this is looking like an updated Gemini for Orbiter

 

[4throck]

Right now, I got the Agena's limited RCS going (two RCS, only up or down jets on each), and the lights.

The mesh was updated with a better status panel.

The panel is a bit too small on the image, but the displays will be animated.


The next step is getting the light effects right, including blinking

 

[Urwumpe]

Will you also add a functionality to remote command the Agena? Maybe via clbkGeneric?

 

[Donamy]

First, are you one of the original mesh creators? Its hard to match full names to nicknames
If that's the case and you don't want the meshes used, just say so. I can model if needed !

My updates to the meshes will be small. Some working gauges and status lights to the VC.
For functionality, I hope to do something like the stock Atlantis.
So no, no working VC buttons or advanced system simulation, those are unrealistic goals for me.

Yes, I made the originals. You can use whatever meshes, of mine, you need too.

 

[4throck]

Yes, I made the originals. You can use whatever meshes, of mine, you need too.

Thanks! :thumbup:

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Will you also add a functionality to remote command the Agena? Maybe via clbkGeneric?

Yes!

It will be something simple, like pressing a key and showing a dialog using proc.wait_input(title).

No problem in having it popup with Gemini as the main vessel, perhaps taking into account transmitter range. I have a reference for that somewhere.

 

[barrygolden]

Super idea 4th rock. new detailing of Gemini missions sounds great. you know I like GT9 and you might check with gattis about the AMU and a dockable ATDA. When you get there be sure to add an EVA light to the aft station so working around the AMU on GT 9 and the EVA on GT 12 and be worked during night passes

 

[4throck]

Working on a HUD status panel that also doubles as radio command reference
You can also see the detailed panel on the Agena itself, that will be animated latter.

 

[Phil Smith]

Man, it looks great! I guess even clickable 2d cockpit would be amazing not mentioning 3d.. :thumbup:

As for reference source here I've found two 360deg panoramas of Gemini cockpit:

Gemini IV - https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/gemini-ivjpg
Gemini VII - https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/11429pjpg

Cheers!

 

[Urwumpe]

Now... does somebody know what the flightplan scroll for Gemini 4 did look like?