Science First an alien bug, now an alien fish?? (Warning: ugly fish pic.)

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Is this the most terrifying sea creature ever caught? Mystery species with fearsome tusk-like spikes and spines along its body is found off Borneo.



By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 09:45 EST, 6 November 2013 | UPDATED: 12:32 EST, 6 November 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...some-tusk-like-spikes-spines-body-Borneo.html

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Fish? Looks more like a large triops, a crab and living fossile.
 

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Yes, it is probably quite an ancient species, it shows features lost on the evolutionnary path a looong time ago...
 

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Now that you say it:



Lives deep (100-700 meters) in the North Atlantic and is known as "Malarmat" to French and Spanish cuisine. Was already mentioned in Brehms Tierleben, around 1900.

Never heard of those, but now that you mentioned the armoured Sea Robin, it is clear what it is.
 

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Oh come on, it looks cute...:p

"I'm not gonna eat that. You eat it."
"I ain't eatin' it. You"
"Nope. No, way", ...

Make a great plot for a sci fi flick about happens to the first guy that eats it.

Bob Clark :-O

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Now that you say it:



Lives deep (100-700 meters) in the North Atlantic and is known as "Malarmat" to French and Spanish cuisine. Was already mentioned in Brehms Tierleben, around 1900.

Never heard of those, but now that you mentioned the armoured Sea Robin, it is clear what it is.

Still might be an alien ...

Bob Clark :)
 

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Ugly fish? It's beautiful! :)

Fish? Looks more like a large triops, a crab and living fossile.

It is clear from the image that it is not an arthropod, the eye is clearly vertebrate, there is no indication of arthropod-type segmentation in the tail section (which rather exhibits an alternating scale pattern) and there are no obvious arthropod limbs.
 

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It is clear from the image that it is not an arthropod, the eye is clearly vertebrate, there is no indication of arthropod-type segmentation in the tail section (which rather exhibits an alternating scale pattern) and there are no obvious arthropod limbs.

I didn't want to claim that it had eyes there (before I knew that it was a fish) - maybe it was just mimicri.
 

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I didn't want to claim that it had eyes there (before I knew that it was a fish) - maybe it was just mimicri.

Anyway eyes are useless between 100 and 700 meters depht. No light at all. They must be very small or inexistent. Orbits are probably an evolutionary memory written in the DNA, nothing more.
 

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Anyway eyes are useless between 100 and 700 meters depht. No light at all. They must be very small or inexistent. Orbits are probably an evolutionary memory written in the DNA, nothing more.

Actually - the deeper the ocean, the bigger the eyes is the rule.
 

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Urwumpe is right, remember the Giant squids (officially observed for a few years)? They're living in quite deep sea, at least 500 meters and have eyes. And fabulous eyes, bigger than your palm.

And there are signs for even larger squids, collossal squids who live even deeper. You would find giant eyes on them, too.
 

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For some reason it makes me happy that they put it on a dinner plate to photograph it !!

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Here's the beauty of the internet in action: "we'be discovered a new species of mystery animal!"

80% of world: "oooooooooooo wow"

Garyw: "hogwash! I bought one of those from the market yesterday and ate it for breakfast"

(note: not actual quote from garyw)
 

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I didn't want to claim that it had eyes there (before I knew that it was a fish) - maybe it was just mimicri.

It would be a possibility, but unlikely given the structure and depth of the eyes visible in the image- typically, such mimicry involves pigment patterns or far simpler structures.

Orbits are probably an evolutionary memory written in the DNA, nothing more.

There are various cases where eye atrophy is found in animals that live in light deficient environments such as caves, which indicates that eyes do indeed atrophy when there is no evolutionary impetus to keep them around.
 
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