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Old 03-21-2018, 06:01 PM   #76
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 A couple more development screenies.....

Falcon9 fairings complete with RCS, Parafoils and basic guidance, on their way down...
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This one's in the net, 50% success rate so far...
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Needs a bit more work on the parafoil final approach, and I'm way off estimating the FRV(Fairing Recovery Vessel) position but I might put a version up on OH soon :-)

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Amazing work !!!
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:04 PM   #77
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Looking good.

The recent picture of the floating fairing really amazed me. It looks exactly like a ship. That makes me wonder: Couldn't they just add a system so it could sail home on the winds? Close the back side, raise a (carbon) peroscopic mast, drop a sail and have a simple GPS system sail it home? That would reduce launching costs. Most sailing ships aren't as expensive as a fairing..
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:11 PM   #78
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 Amazing work !!!
Thanks Don :-)

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 Looking good.

The recent picture of the floating fairing really amazed me. It looks exactly like a ship. That makes me wonder: Couldn't they just add a system so it could sail home on the winds? Close the back side, raise a (carbon) peroscopic mast, drop a sail and have a simple GPS system sail it home? That would reduce launching costs. Most sailing ships aren't as expensive as a fairing..
Why not? Use the parafoil as the sail. Though I think the general consensus is: seawater is no good for rocket parts.

Anyway, I've had much fun making the Mr.Steven model and trying out some parafoil guidance algorithm ideas(you need a bit of data about wind at the landing target zone, otherwise it gets tough).

Latest version is up on Orbit-Hangar
Version 180321:
Added Recoverable Fairings and FRV(Fairing Recovery Vessel).
Added FRV to scenarios(where applicable).
Added Config file options for "Used" Booster Skin; Disable Fairing Recovery.
Fixed "Countdown Timer" bug.


Known bug: Estimated FRV Position value is not much good for anything except going to 200km parking orbit - needs more work.

After the 1st stage has landed, it's quite fun watching the fairings coming back to the FRV.

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Brian
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:52 AM   #79
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Now we only need a recoverable second stage to get a fully reusable launcher even if only in Orbiter. It would be fun to assemble a new launcher from the used components in the same scenario.
Great work on fairing parafoils and FRV!
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:40 AM   #80
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:27 PM   #81
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Hello "Brianj"

In tribute to your extraordinary work, a small series of images.

Gratee to you is your ADDON orbiter 2016 is enriched with beautiful creations !

Thanks again
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Old 03-25-2018, 01:54 PM   #82
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Merci pappy2, glad you like it :-) I have so much fun making this stuff!

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 Now we only need a recoverable second stage to get a fully reusable launcher even if only in Orbiter.
I might have to play around with that idea if I get the time.

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 It would be fun to assemble a new launcher from the used components in the same scenario.
If someone wants to make a "Port Canaveral" add-on, I'll put an engine and an attachment-point on the ASDS so you can bring the booster back. And a dockside crane. And a road-transporter ;-D

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Old 03-25-2018, 02:12 PM   #83
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 And a road-transporter ;-D
The road transporter is just a slightly modified Orbiter Transporter System (OTS) which was used to move the shuttle orbiter vehicles between the OPFs and the VAB. SpaceX bought it from NASA through a General Services Administration (GSA) auction in 2014 for US$37,075.
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Old 03-26-2018, 12:06 PM   #84
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Hey Brian was flying this weekend and just saw this update and again super job. With Sat launches once the sat is deployed thats the end but with this it keeps going. Yes a Port and transport might be cool as well.
Keep your parafoil ready if you ever do my X 38 to ISS flight. that could be used to land at EDW. Super job. I'll show this at work today.
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Old 03-28-2018, 12:30 AM   #85
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I may have some pretty good pictures of Port Canaveral. I know I have some of OCISLY floating around somewhere (no pun intended). Last time we cruised out of Canaveral they were doing work on the deck.
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:21 PM   #86
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 The road transporter is just a slightly modified Orbiter Transporter System (OTS) which was used to move the shuttle orbiter vehicles between the OPFs and the VAB. SpaceX bought it from NASA through a General Services Administration (GSA) auction in 2014 for US$37,075.
Sounds like a bargain.

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 Last time we cruised out of Canaveral they were doing work on the deck.
Maybe installing one of the "octagrabber" hold-down mechanisms I've seen in photos?
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:31 PM   #87
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 Sounds like a bargain.

Maybe installing one of the "octagrabber" hold-down mechanisms I've seen in photos?
Actually the "octograbber" was a robot that would move out post-landing and help with the securing of the stage on the barge. But it got seriously damaged the last time they had a stage crash on the barge and it hasn't been repaired yet. Right now it is unknown whether or not they actually have a use for the thing or not.

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 Sounds like a bargain.
I'm not sure how much Cometto got for it back in the early 80's when it was commissioned for use at Vandenberg AFB to move Discovery around.
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:58 PM   #88
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 Actually the "octograbber" was a robot that would move out post-landing and help with the securing of the stage on the barge. But it got seriously damaged the last time they had a stage crash on the barge and it hasn't been repaired yet. Right now it is unknown whether or not they actually have a use for the thing or not.
Interesting. This "octograbber" is new to me.
Are we talking about this(not my annotations).....or is this something else?
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:13 PM   #89
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 Interesting. This "octograbber" is new to me.
Are we talking about this(not my annotations).....or is this something else?
That's it. The crawler tracks are what is used to move it around the deck. It would be hidden away in a compartment until the stage had landed safely when it would be commanded to go to work.
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Old 03-28-2018, 07:27 PM   #90
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Update and Discussion Thread for SpaceX's 'Roomba' Robot.
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...?topic=42511.0

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