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Old 10-22-2013, 10:38 PM   #31
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:27 PM   #32
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Thanks for that. Pretty cool.

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Old 10-28-2013, 09:54 PM   #33
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Space News: Dordain: ESA Pact Doesn’t Rule Out Defense Work:
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PARIS — The director-general of the European Space Agency (ESA), rejecting a criticism leveled by the European Commission, said the agency’s convention referring to “peaceful uses only” no more limits ESA’s ability to conduct military space activities than the United Nations Outer Space Treaty constrains that treaty’s signatories, which include the United States and Russia.

Jean-Jacques Dordain, in testimony to the U.K. Parliament’s Science and Technology Committee, said the 20-nation agency is capable of performing defense and security work for the European Commission or other European governments without changing its convention or its membership.

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Space News: European Space Agency, OHB Blamed for Galileo Delays; Financial Penalties Forthcoming
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:06 AM   #35
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Ariane 6 moves to next stage of development
11 November 2013
The preliminary requirements for Europe’s next-generation Ariane 6 launcher have been agreed and the project is set to move on to the next stage.

In November 2012, the ESA Council at Ministerial level, meeting in Naples, Italy, approved the start of preparatory activities for Europe’s next-generation Ariane 6 launch vehicle.
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/La...of_development
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:15 AM   #36
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Solid first and second stages...Looks like France got their chance to develop their new ICBMs with ESA money. When will the USA declare embargo against Europe?

And is somebody developing it for Orbiter? The video is really a bit poor compared to what we do in real-time here.

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Old 11-18-2013, 07:10 AM   #37
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By deciding on the solid-fueled Ariane 6, ESA is, unwittingly, betting on SpaceX to fail on reusability. For if SpaceX succeeds then the solid-fueled Ariane 6 becomes obsolete, with billions of dollars and years wasted. ESA would then have to start all over again to develop a liquid-fueled version which can be made reusable.

Musk lays out plans for reusability of the Falcon 9 rocket.
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“The most important thing is that we now believe we have all the pieces of the puzzle (for recovery). If you take the Grasshopper tests, where we were able to do a precision takeoff and landing of a Falcon 9 first stage and you combine it with the results from this flight where we were able to successfully transition from vacuum to hypersonic, through supersonic, through transonic and light the engines all the way through and control the stage all the way through.
“We have all the pieces necessary to achieve a full recovery of the boost stage.”
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/...lcon-9-rocket/


I think it's a bad bet on ESA's part.

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For if SpaceX succeeds then the solid-fueled Ariane 6 becomes obsolete, with billions of dollars and years wasted. ESA would then have to start all over again to develop a liquid-fueled version which can be made reusable.
How much are you willed to bet yourself on SpaceX managing to even get a two-digit market share on the geostationary market?

Also, a statement by SpaceX from SpaceX best fanboy in a ESA thread is pretty funny, since the test on the Falcon 9 1.1 launch failed exactly because of the pieces that they did not have: Everything that they did not test on Grasshopper went wrong.

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How much are you willed to bet yourself on SpaceX managing to even get a two-digit market share on the geostationary market?
Are you offering to cover such a bet?
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 Are you offering to cover such a bet?
Sure. Because I don't see SpaceX getting far yet - and the problem is not the technology, which could be solved easily.
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11 posts discussing whether Falcon 9 1.1 1st stage's hypersonic reentry on its 1st flight was a success towards its reusability have been moved to "[Discussion] Falcon 9 1.1 1st stage hypersonic reentry" thread.

Please keep the discussion on-topic. This thread is about ESA's future and not about SpaceX projects or feasibility.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:20 PM   #42
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Europe's rocket industry is currently going through something of an epiphany - the realisation that it must adapt, and fast, or simply become irrelevant.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-28166626
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Thanks for that. From the images it looks like the Airbus-Safran design will use the same Ariane 5 core but with smaller side boosters. This might be cheaper than the design that puts an additional Vulcain on the core stage. Still, that second Vulcain would allow you to carry larger payload with the same side boosters, plus it would have the flexibility to fly as a reusable first stage.


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Well, the decision is not till December, and I'm sure there's a lot of horse-trading going on. ESA should be careful or they are going to have a large range of rockets and price themselves out the market.
Of course, they could just go with Skylon http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/, but I'm biased...

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Europe settles on design for Ariane 6 rocket
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The design for Europe's new Ariane 6 rocket has been settled and development will now move on apace, say officials.

The launcher is due to be introduced in 2020 and long-term will replace the Ariane 5 and Soyuz vehicles that currently operate out of French Guiana.

Airbus Safran Launchers, the company set up exactly one year ago to build the new rocket, is in the process of pulling together its subcontractors.
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