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Old 08-12-2013, 10:13 PM   #5641
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Kyle, do you use Photoshop?
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:18 PM   #5642
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GIMP.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:25 AM   #5643
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My favourite thing to do while testing my DG autopilot.



Not the most impressive screenshot, but I always like to imagine I am sitting there...
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:39 PM   #5644
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 Great job there Kyle.
Out of Normal mapping and Bump mapping, I have to say I prefer bump mapping. It seems to give a more realistic effect at different light levels and shows the shadows better.
Proper normal map that "shifts" surface in right direction is pretty hard to make. Usually it's done from hi poly very detailed model and then aplied to lower res mesh. Converting desaturated texture is not enough and often produces particular artifacts (element appears "beveled down" on certain angle and "beveled up" on another).

latest example: http://orbithangar.com/addonpics/DGex%20norm.jpg


Bump map is much easier to do, since you operate in single axis only (in and out of polygon plane) .

I experimented with mormal maps for HCLV but settled on bump map which can be created much easier and doesn't produce such artifacts.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:51 PM   #5645
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Also, I,d just like to point out, the textures don,t have to be the same size.
Obviously, the bigger the bump or normal and main textures the better, but your other textures, emis , spec.
Would be nice to keep the main and bump the same size, but the rest can be smaller if you wish. It saves a little bit of memory I guess.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:58 PM   #5646
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 My favourite thing to do while testing my DG autopilot.

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Not the most impressive screenshot, but I always like to imagine I am sitting there...
OOOh! if it's as good as your LSTS medium,and heavy LUA autopilots were info a real treat
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:12 PM   #5647
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 Bump map is much easier to do
And it can be easily converted to normal map, and this is how D3D9Client handles them (i.e. by internally converting them to normal maps upon loading).
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:14 PM   #5648
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 OOOh! if it's as good as your LSTS medium,and heavy LUA autopilots were info a real treat
I'm just testing out a few things I have learnt from books and uni courses (e.g. about flight mechanics). I've learnt a lot about Orbiter in the last few months and maybe that will be helpful for some undefined project in the future
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:57 PM   #5649
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  I've learnt a lot about Orbiter in the last few months and maybe that will be helpful for some undefined project in the future
First rule of Add-on Development:

A developer never runs out of projects to work on, even if they try to stop creating more new ones. Its a compulsion, or a disease or something

The brave adventurers of Upsilon Andromedae I passed the final stage of their journey, returning to the surface of UPSDI after a long & trying reentry



The whole reentry must have taken a half an hour & almost half of the planet. The atmosphere is thicker than Earths, and the orbital velocity is about 8400 m/s, so reentry was very difficult, compounded by using the realistic XR2 config available on Orbithangar here

http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4219


which allowed very little margin for things like wing loading.

But anyways, the tricky part is mostly finding a way to get into the atmosphere & drop that first 1000 m/s off without burning up. Once I did that, all I did was cruise along at 60 km or so, keeping my vertical speed at around -20 to -60 m/s & let the speed bleed off. Aerobrake MFD was very useful in monitoring this, so I was able to keep the hull temperature under 1200 C for most of the ride



Once I passed into daylight, I discovered that I was literally on the other side of the planet from my target, so I added an emergency base with a runway to the peninsula I was flying over (yeah I know, sorta cheating, but look how many runways you can find on Earth in an emergency)

Closing in



And a rough landing! I dont know what happened, as my touchdown speed was only 1 or 2 m/s, but I was going 150 m/s, so I blew out my landing gear.



The vessel was otherwise fine, and my crew arrived unharmed. Mission control goes wild!!!




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Old 08-16-2013, 02:10 AM   #5650
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I've continued to mess around with bump maps, this time on the ISS.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:21 AM   #5651
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 I've continued to mess around with bump maps, this time on the ISS.
Looks really great Kyle!
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:07 PM   #5652
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So after an hour of re-learning how to get myself in orbit in one piece (and some minutes toying around with some photomanipulation tools), I made my first Orbiter snapshot in... Quite a while.

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Old 08-17-2013, 03:01 AM   #5653
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I decided to take a break from building my Lunar Station and start designing the first major ship that will be constructed at it.

Here are the requirements:
  1. Crew: 4
  2. Passengers: 36 (2 fully crewed XR5s)
  3. Self sufficient Food/O2/Water for 40 people
  4. Centrifuge gravity for 40 people
  5. Enough Delta V to go anywhere in the Sol system w/out refueling
  6. 2 docking ports for XR5s
  7. 1 central docking port for docking with Lunar Station
  8. PLENTY of cargo capacity outside of the cargo carried by the XR5s

And here's what I've come up with:
  1. Crew and Passenger requirements met
  2. Self sufficient Food/O2/Water requirement met
  3. Gravity requirement met
  4. Over 10 Mm/s delta V (I haven't finished it yet, but this is where it's looking to end up)
  5. Docking port requirements met
  6. When complete, will be capable of carrying 504 XR5 cargo pallets (and each XR5 will carry 36 more) which I feel meets the cargo capacity requirement

I call it the Solar System Transport Vehicle, or SSTV for short.

Although the ship isn't completed, I made a 'practice run' from the Lunar Station to Earth Orbit and brought up an XR5 from Kennedy to dock with it just to give some idea of its size.

Did I mention that in its current semi-finished state I get 3.9 G's of thrust out of those 5 engines in the back?

Those are radiators, not solar arrays. The ship is 100% nuke powered.

Once the Lunar Station is at IRRCC, my plan is to construct 1 of these ships, dock a couple of loaded XR5s to it, and then depart for Europa. The cargo I brought along will be used to build a space station in orbit around Europa. It will be something a little smaller than the Lunar Station, but the same sort of idea. Then I'll fly this ship back to the Lunar Station, reload it, and fly it out to Titan and build a space station there. I think 576 XR5 cargo pallets should contain enough stuff to build a decent sized refueling station at Europa and Titan.

After that, maybe I'll load it up again and build a station out at Pluto....

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Old 08-17-2013, 05:20 AM   #5654
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 Did I mention that in its current semi-finished state I get 3.9 G's of thrust out of those 5 engines in the back?
Oh, these engines you're using! I was wondering how did you achieve such a dV, but this explains everything. To your information, Nexiss and me used these engines for interstelar travels (with Orbiter Galaxy addon). These engines should be well suitable for solar system exploration of course
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:25 AM   #5655
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 Oh, these engines you're using! I was wondering how did you achieve such a dV, but this explains everything. To your information, Nexiss and me used these engines for interstelar travels (with Orbiter Galaxy addon). These engines should be well suitable for solar system exploration of course
I was quite interested in their efficiency.
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