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Old 08-05-2019, 09:52 PM   #16
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 But as they got away with it, we pretend it didn't happen.
That's a good read. Funny thing is, it's not just the British history books used at school which present a different picture. Go ask someone Dutch why New York isn't called New Amsterdam. You'll get different stories each time. Some say we sold it. Some say we traded it for Suriname. Some say we traded it for shiploads full of carpets..
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:09 PM   #17
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Well, you are dealing with events over 300 years ago in that case. You need researchers, archivists, historians. All who can handle records of that age.
Its no wonder history is complicated.

I thought it was New Amsterdam and renamed New York by the Americans? Though that seems unlikely come to think about it...
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:36 PM   #18
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 I thought it was New Amsterdam and renamed New York by the Americans? Though that seems unlikely come to think about it...
There's actually quite a bit of truth to that. The people living there gradually became Americans, fed up with being ruled by some overseas king or queen. The British granted them more freedom including full freedom of religion, which they didn't have under Dutch rule. Eventually, in 1664, four big English ships with 450 men were enough to persuade Peter Stuyvesant to surrender without battle.

This part of history is very well documented by the Italian writer Russel Shorto: http://www.russellshorto.com/book/th...-of-the-world/
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:44 PM   #19
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A different view on geography...



Al Murray is his stage act, he's actually quite a decent actor/tv presenter and did a good series called The Road To Berlin.
But he does a great skit as a xenophobic/racist pub landlord.
The series mentioned above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Mur...Road_to_Berlin

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Old 08-06-2019, 11:20 AM   #20
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It looks like they ran into some trouble on the first leg today. The follower plane (OY-THP) has landed back in Scotland. I can't find any tracking data for the Spitfire.

If they're looking for better weather, they can be in for a long wait.
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Old 08-06-2019, 01:01 PM   #21
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They have a tracker on their site: https://www.silverspitfire.com/exped...light-tracker/

It would make more sense to me to circumnavigate the earth the other way around.

---------- Post added at 03:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:42 PM ----------

The Spit can be tracked here too: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-irty#219630ae

It turned around and landed on Lossiemouth at 10:55 UTC.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:17 PM   #22
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The tracking data on the spitfire is slow/intermittent. The "follower" plane landed in Iceland this evening.

I'd like more news on their website. It looks like the Spitfire is still in Scotland.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:28 PM   #23
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Looks like its a bit of a one-man band, they will have to get better at their information output if they expect people to stay interested.

It does look like a glorified wrist-watch promo, but credit to them for getting the machine to as many places as they promise.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:19 PM   #24
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Keeping a plane that old in the air for four months straight is not a small feat.
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:19 PM   #25
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Looks like its left the UK. Hope they are keeping regular radio checks.

https://www.silverspitfire.com/about/flight-tracker/

Interesting, according to flightradar24 link above it landed at Vagar at 13:10?

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Old 08-08-2019, 06:55 PM   #26
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https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-irty#219630ae

Got to Iceland, be glad when it gets to continental North America.
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 Interesting, according to flightradar24 link above it landed at Vagar at 13:10?
It was not listed under arrivals today, so I missed it. (I'm about 1 hour away from the airport)



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Old 08-08-2019, 09:43 PM   #28
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Well, that must be a real(insert anything you like here!).

I've only seen a few Spitfires at air shows, but they always excel.
Saw a big Balbo many years ago at Duxford display. The merlin sound is magical, though I do prefer the four of them from a Lancaster.

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Its done a short flight in Iceland:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-irty#21a0768b

Testing or a demo?
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:40 PM   #30
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 Testing or a demo?
Looks like he always had an opportunity to land. First Tungubakkaflugvöllur (love those names ), then to some grasslands west of lake Ţingvallavatn, Sandskeiđ and back home. Could be a test. Could be a flight for some nice pics.
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