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Old 09-16-2016, 05:31 PM   #151
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Adding to the Big Dumb Rocks department,
Asteroid Pack 1.00
is working...

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Hubble Space Telescope v2.0 (servicable)
*almost* works, but the "STS-61 HST operations" scenario CTDs. I think it could be easily fixed though...

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More "big dumb rocks" working in 2016:

Eris and Dysnomia

Orcus

2006 SQ372

Haumea (2003 EL61) v2.0
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:10 PM   #152
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Adding to the Big Dumb Rocks department, Asteroid Pack 1.00 is working...
Hmm... So, why the Phobos is not ??

Landing on it was the first thing I have made after downloading v2016 (of course) and my DG-IV experienced collision with the Phobos Magical Sphere, preceded by altitude sound reports completely inconsistent with altimeter readings.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:35 PM   #153
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 At least NASSP is open source. You could try to recompile it for the new SDK, perhaps it is just a binary incompatibility problem.
No, it's complicated, but we're publishing betas for 2016 now and it's a feature scheduled for the next major release. I posted a thread in addons with the details.

There sure is a lot of hostility toward developers here; Not everyone can afford to put their entire life on hold to immediately update when new releases happen, and releasing a package does not create an obligation of indefinite support. Things happen. I nearly died a few years ago, and none of you would probably found out if I had. You'd just grumble about how "dseagrav doesn't care anymore" and "dseagrav is just lazy". Lives change and time goes on. Instead of griping, contribute!
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:43 PM   #154
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 I nearly died a few years ago, and none of you would probably found out if I had.
Well, at least I am glad you didn't die.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:59 PM   #155
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 There sure is a lot of hostility toward developers here; Not everyone can afford to put their entire life on hold to immediately update when new releases happen, and releasing a package does not create an obligation of indefinite support. Things happen. I nearly died a few years ago, and none of you would probably found out if I had. You'd just grumble about how "dseagrav doesn't care anymore" and "dseagrav is just lazy". Lives change and time goes on. Instead of griping, contribute!

That has increasingly become contemporary online behavior recently.

If certain individuals don't get exactly what they want and precisely when they want it, while contributing nothing in return, they will immediately lambaste whoever they deem responsible. You often see this sort of thing in online gaming communities in particular.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:56 PM   #156
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You see that everywhere, it's a cultural thing.

In part its some sort of Eternal Childhood syndrome ("I want ice-cream now!").

But it's also a reflex of being online all the time. People write whatever comes to their minds at the moment, with little thinking.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:00 PM   #157
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 Well, at least I am glad you didn't die.
Not as glad as I am, lol

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 If certain individuals don't get exactly what they want and precisely when they want it, while contributing nothing in return, they will immediately lambaste whoever they deem responsible.
I have never understood this sense of entitlement and I doubt I ever will. Many seem to believe it is an inverse function of age, but I don't think this is accurate - To me it seems the further one is removed from work the more entitled to its output they feel.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:15 PM   #158
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 I have never understood this sense of entitlement and I doubt I ever will. Many seem to believe it is an inverse function of age, but I don't think this is accurate - To me it seems the further one is removed from work the more entitled to its output they feel.
It's a bit like feeding wild birds, you feed them couple of times and then you have to keep feeding them or they get pissed off.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:29 PM   #159
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 Hmm... So, why the Phobos is not ??

Landing on it was the first thing I have made after downloading v2016 (of course) and my DG-IV experienced collision with the Phobos Magical Sphere, preceded by altitude sound reports completely inconsistent with altimeter readings.
I posted these addons as "working", meaning they showed up in Orbiter and didn't CTD. I didn't actually try landing on any of them, however. If any of them are quirky, let me know.

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Regarding the pissy attitudes and complaining: For crying out loud, the new version JUST CAME OUT! It takes time to upgrade addons to work with the new version. Some never will. I'd still love for TTM24 or Vespucci to work once again. They never will, likely. I'm not going to pitch a tantrum over it; I graduated to big boy pants a long time ago.
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:33 PM   #160
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I didn't actually try landing on any of them, however
And it is not necessary to do it know, I think I have just discovered what is happening.

I've tried both: stock Delta Glider (very nice cockpit in 2016) and DG-Mk-IV in Valles Marineris just a moment ago.
It seems that there is problem with Orbiter Sound: it always gets planets Magic Sphere as a reference. DG-Mk-IV seems to also rely on it, when it is detecting collision.

So for now: Mk-IV is operable in high mountain area only

1. This BUG is probably invisible, when operating on Earth - at least unless someone is trying to dive in the ocean...
2. This BUG is likely to be corrected fairly quickly, because Orbiter Sound is being rewritten (if I understood it correctly)
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Old 09-17-2016, 04:36 AM   #161
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More big dumb rocks that work. I love a cluttered solar system.

90 Antiope (Binary Asteroid)

Cruinthe Asteroid 3753

1994 CC

Mercury Crosser Asteroids

Trojan Asteroids v1.01
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:13 AM   #162
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 You see that everywhere, it's a cultural thing.

In part its some sort of Eternal Childhood syndrome ("I want ice-cream now!")
I see it so, that the consumers start to make you think that it's you, not them, who need to have the addon released (or do anything for free), just to get their appreciation, therefore exposing and exploiting your weakness - the need of appreciation. It's worth to think why you might be needing it. In other words: what's missing in your real life.
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:15 AM   #163
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Niven base did an immediate CTD for me. Can anyone confirm it's working?
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:14 AM   #164
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In the OP (among the MISC) there should also be HUDDrawer.
It's required by some MFDs you listed as working.
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Old 09-17-2016, 10:02 AM   #165
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 I see it so, that the consumers start to make you think that it's you, not them, who need to have the addon released (or do anything for free), just to get their appreciation, therefore exposing and exploiting your weakness - the need of appreciation. It's worth to think why you might be needing it. In other words: what's missing in your real life.
Exactly that. Of course, you can also program just for fun. In this case, you should never let user requests keep you from having fun. Even if it is a terrible lesson for the users, that you are absolutely human, too.
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