OFMM V3 Mission Statement - Orbiter-Forum

mojoey · 03-24-2013, 11:39 PM

Hi folks. As you may have seen in the chatbox recently, garyw has handed over control of OFMM to myself. So this thread is a general introduction to OFMM, as this incarnation is going to be vastly different.

What is this?
A joint cooperative mission to Mars between various members of O-F, similar to OFSS.

What is it not?
An art exhibition. I'm sure you can make excellent patches and repaints, but this only complicates things, and over complication can be detrimental to the goal. So please, refrain from doing this.

What's required

Orbiter 2010P1 (kinda a given...dontcha think?)

UMMU/UCGO (christmas pre-release)

Arrow Freighter (christmas pre-release)

DG-IV (christmas pre-release)

Loru's Surface Science Kit

How many flights

There will be two at least 5 pilot openings, as well as those who 'volunteer*' to stay behind and conduct surface experiments.

If you have any questions, feel free to post down below. If you'd like to participate, or help with mission planning, speak up, and I'll add you to the roster.

Participants
mojoey
MaverickSawyer
Dgatsoulis
Bloodworth
Pipcard

*return to Earth not guaranteed. You have been warned.

MaverickSawyer · 03-24-2013, 11:42 PM

If someone can coach me through the TransX or IMFD setup for the run, I think I can manage the run between Earth and Mars. Otherwise, I'm game for anything else.

EDIT: what's the Arrow Freighter for, transfer of the Dragons? And is it the latest beta from dnasteph, or the UCGO2.0 version?

Double Edit:

READ THE POST, MAV!!!

mojoey · 03-24-2013, 11:44 PM

I'll need to brush up on my IMFD skills, and I'll pass along any helpful tutorials to you. As well as posting them here.

MaverickSawyer · 03-24-2013, 11:46 PM

Cool. Count me in!

dgatsoulis · 03-24-2013, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickSawyer

If someone can coach me through the TransX or IMFD setup for the run, I think I can manage the run between Earth and Mars.

Sure Mav, I can help you with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojoey

If you'd like to participate, or help with mission planning, speak up, and I'll add you to the roster.

Won't be able to fly, but I can definitely help with mission planning. Any idea what the timeframe will be?

mojoey · 03-24-2013, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgatsoulis

Sure Mav, I can help you with that.

Won't be able to fly, but I can definitely help with mission planning. Any idea what the timeframe will be?

I'll be messing with the Cosmic Train site tonight, and post a general timeframe.

Pipcard · 03-24-2013, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojoey

What is it not?
An art exhibition. I'm sure you can make excellent patches and repaints, but this only complicates things, and over complication can be detrimental to the goal. So please, refrain from doing this.

Yeah, I was obsessed with mission patches last year.

mojoey · 03-24-2013, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipcard

Yeah, I was obsessed with mission patches last year.

Don't think it was directed at you, it was just a general 'don't do this' thing.

dgatsoulis · 03-24-2013, 11:59 PM

IIRC, there is a handy EVME free return comming up next October. It might be useful for the manned Dragon to have an abort → back to Earth option.

If you want, I can create a preliminary TransX plan and check the reentry velocity to see if the capsule can handle it.

MaverickSawyer · 03-25-2013, 12:02 AM

Does anyone know if Glider's Dragons will survive a Martian EDL cycle? I'm not able to fly this week, so I can't check.

---------- Post added at 17:02 ---------- Previous post was at 17:00 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgatsoulis

IIRC, there is a handy EVME free return comming up next October. It might be useful for the manned Dragon to have an abort → back to Earth option.

If you want, I can create a preliminary TransX plan and check the reentry velocity to see if the capsule can handle it.

Go for the 2-year orbital cycle. It's a 180 day outbound leg, and you can still divert as little as 5 days before entry.

As for the heat shield, you can always do an aerocapture, then send up another capsule to rescue the crew. No need to go for a full-on direct entry.

**garyw** · 03-25-2013, 12:02 AM

I doubt the parachutes will be big enough for Mars thin atmosphere.

Pipcard · 03-25-2013, 12:03 AM

Will the two Dragons dock with the Arrow Freighter in LEO? If so, only two Falcon 9s (not Heavies) are needed.

MaverickSawyer · 03-25-2013, 12:03 AM

I'm concerned if they'll even DEPLOY.

mojoey · 03-25-2013, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickSawyer

Does anyone know if Glider's Dragons will survive a Martian EDL cycle? I'm not able to fly this week, so I can't check.

---------- Post added at 17:02 ---------- Previous post was at 17:00 ----------

Go for the 2-year orbital cycle. It's a 180 day outbound leg, and you can still divert as little as 5 days before entry.

As for the heat shield, you can always do an aerocapture, then send up another capsule to rescue the crew. No need to go for a full-on direct entry.

I was thinking about using the Arrow for a transport to Mars. Then undock the Dragons and de-orbit them.

MaverickSawyer · 03-25-2013, 12:15 AM

Ok, so we'll be using Docks 2 and 3 on the exterior. I'll get cracking on my docking practice next week.

Quick thought: can Dragon be refuelled through the docking mechanism? If not right now, is it a consideration?

---------- Post added at 17:15 ---------- Previous post was at 17:06 ----------

Rebooted the Surface Science Goals thread.

03-24-2013, 11:39 PM	#1
mojoey JapanAXA!	OFMM V3 Mission Statement Hi folks. As you may have seen in the chatbox recently, garyw has handed over control of OFMM to myself. So this thread is a general introduction to OFMM, as this incarnation is going to be vastly different. What is this? A joint cooperative mission to Mars between various members of O-F, similar to OFSS. What is it not? An art exhibition. I'm sure you can make excellent patches and repaints, but this only complicates things, and over complication can be detrimental to the goal. So please, refrain from doing this. What's required Orbiter 2010P1 (kinda a given...dontcha think?) UMMU/UCGO (christmas pre-release) Arrow Freighter (christmas pre-release) DG-IV (christmas pre-release) Loru's Surface Science Kit How many flights There will be two at least 5 pilot openings, as well as those who 'volunteer' to stay behind and conduct surface experiments. If you have any questions, feel free to post down below. If you'd like to participate, or help with mission planning, speak up, and I'll add you to the roster. Participants* mojoey MaverickSawyer Dgatsoulis Bloodworth Pipcard return to Earth not guaranteed. You have been warned. Last edited by mojoey; 03-25-2013 at 08:38 PM.*

03-25-2013, 12:03 AM	#12
Pipcard mikusingularity	Will the two Dragons dock with the Arrow Freighter in LEO? If so, only two Falcon 9s (not Heavies) are needed. Last edited by Pipcard; 03-25-2013 at 12:06 AM.

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03-24-2013, 11:42 PM	#2
MaverickSawyer Acolyte of the Probe	If someone can coach me through the TransX or IMFD setup for the run, I think I can manage the run between Earth and Mars. Otherwise, I'm game for anything else. EDIT: what's the Arrow Freighter for, transfer of the Dragons? And is it the latest beta from dnasteph, or the UCGO2.0 version? Double Edit: READ THE POST, MAV!!!

03-24-2013, 11:44 PM	#3
mojoey JapanAXA!	I'll need to brush up on my IMFD skills, and I'll pass along any helpful tutorials to you. As well as posting them here.

03-24-2013, 11:46 PM	#4
MaverickSawyer Acolyte of the Probe	Cool. Count me in!

03-24-2013, 11:49 PM	#5
dgatsoulis ele2png user	Quote: Originally Posted by MaverickSawyer If someone can coach me through the TransX or IMFD setup for the run, I think I can manage the run between Earth and Mars. Sure Mav, I can help you with that. Quote: Originally Posted by mojoey If you'd like to participate, or help with mission planning, speak up, and I'll add you to the roster. Won't be able to fly, but I can definitely help with mission planning. Any idea what the timeframe will be?

03-24-2013, 11:50 PM	#6
mojoey JapanAXA!	Quote: Originally Posted by dgatsoulis Sure Mav, I can help you with that. Won't be able to fly, but I can definitely help with mission planning. Any idea what the timeframe will be? I'll be messing with the Cosmic Train site tonight, and post a general timeframe.

03-24-2013, 11:56 PM	#7
Pipcard mikusingularity	Quote: Originally Posted by mojoey What is it not? An art exhibition. I'm sure you can make excellent patches and repaints, but this only complicates things, and over complication can be detrimental to the goal. So please, refrain from doing this. Yeah, I was obsessed with mission patches last year.

03-24-2013, 11:59 PM	#8
mojoey JapanAXA!	Quote: Originally Posted by Pipcard Yeah, I was obsessed with mission patches last year. Don't think it was directed at you, it was just a general 'don't do this' thing.

03-25-2013, 12:02 AM	#10
MaverickSawyer Acolyte of the Probe	Does anyone know if Glider's Dragons will survive a Martian EDL cycle? I'm not able to fly this week, so I can't check. ---------- Post added at 17:02 ---------- Previous post was at 17:00 ---------- Quote: Originally Posted by dgatsoulis IIRC, there is a handy EVME free return comming up next October. It might be useful for the manned Dragon to have an abort → back to Earth option. If you want, I can create a preliminary TransX plan and check the reentry velocity to see if the capsule can handle it. Go for the 2-year orbital cycle. It's a 180 day outbound leg, and you can still divert as little as 5 days before entry. As for the heat shield, you can always do an aerocapture, then send up another capsule to rescue the crew. No need to go for a full-on direct entry.

03-25-2013, 12:02 AM	#11
garyw O-F Administrator	I doubt the parachutes will be big enough for Mars thin atmosphere.

03-25-2013, 12:04 AM	#14
mojoey JapanAXA!	Quote: Originally Posted by MaverickSawyer Does anyone know if Glider's Dragons will survive a Martian EDL cycle? I'm not able to fly this week, so I can't check. ---------- Post added at 17:02 ---------- Previous post was at 17:00 ---------- Go for the 2-year orbital cycle. It's a 180 day outbound leg, and you can still divert as little as 5 days before entry. As for the heat shield, you can always do an aerocapture, then send up another capsule to rescue the crew. No need to go for a full-on direct entry. I was thinking about using the Arrow for a transport to Mars. Then undock the Dragons and de-orbit them.

03-25-2013, 12:15 AM	#15
MaverickSawyer Acolyte of the Probe	Ok, so we'll be using Docks 2 and 3 on the exterior. I'll get cracking on my docking practice next week. Quick thought: can Dragon be refuelled through the docking mechanism? If not right now, is it a consideration? ---------- Post added at 17:15 ---------- Previous post was at 17:06 ---------- Rebooted the Surface Science Goals thread.