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Old 07-23-2013, 08:44 PM   #16
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Velcro/multistage and dll are completely different worlds.
Writing a stable and functioning dll can be a long and frustrating task, and gives much more satisfaction once completed. But sometimes, focusing on the details, you lose the general picture. How much complicated dll addons discussed in the apposite section were released on OH, and how much are become a some sort of vaporware? FOI itself in the years has released only two real dll addons (Eridanus and Antares).
Staying with velcro/multistage/spacecraft etc. can be (and is) somewhat limiting, but allows immaginative and enthusiast developers, not so obsessed with details, to work on much more project in the same (always limited) time, contributing in a different way to the community. I don't want to be misunderstood: i really appreciate the dll based addons (if the dll is well written, something that not always happens). Energia is my favorite launcher.
Anyway... great work Loru! The boosters are very heavily Energia-inspired!

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Old 07-23-2013, 08:48 PM   #17
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 Anyway... great work Loru! The boosters are very heavily Energia-inspired!
For the second time - I only created concept and visual part - dirty work is Woo482's. He made it possible
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:05 PM   #18
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An rather extreme test with an overweight HCLV-4... crashed for me with strange flashes and a freezing Orbiter:

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BEGIN_DESC
Testflight with the HCLV-4-EDS, EDS-2000, Smerch, DM, Carina
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BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
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  Ship HCLV-XV1
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Mir:Mir
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  IDS 0:540 100 1:542 100 2:544 100
  XPDR 482
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Luna-OB1:Wheel
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
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  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:560 100 1:564 100
  XPDR 494
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GL-01:DeltaGlider
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  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
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  XPDR 0
  GEAR 1 1.0000
  AAP 0:0 0:0 0:0
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SH-02:ShuttleA
  STATUS Landed Earth
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  POS -80.6745292 28.5197208
  HEADING 100.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
  PODANGLE 0.0000 0.0000
  DOCKSTATE 0 0.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  PAYLOAD MASS 0.0 0
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loco01:SaganSpaceport\\loco01
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  POS 169.5370000 -0.8578510
  HEADING 270.00
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CradleP 0.00
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  Angle 0.00
  SpeedT 0
  SpeedC 0
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Crane:SaganSpaceport\\XR5_Crane
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 169.5270000 -0.8542000
  HEADING 90.00
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  X_P 0.50
  Y_P 0.00
  Z_P 0.50
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  Y_T 0.00
  Z_T 0.50
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  Arms_T 1.000000
  Lights 0
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Radar:SaganSpaceport\\Radar
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 169.5330990 -0.8597000
  HEADING 270.00
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
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BPad:SaganSpaceport\\Big_Pad
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 169.5321950 -0.8686880
  HEADING 180.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  Lights 0
  Config -1
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HCLV-XV1:HCLV\HCLV-4-EDS
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 169.5321950 -0.8686880
  HEADING 180.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
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  IN_JETTISON 0 0
  J_MARKER 0.000000
  FC_Config 250000.000000 90.000000 0 0 35.000000
  FC_State 0 0.000000 0.000000
  LV_State 1 1 0.000000
  Fairing 0 1
  Offset 10.000000
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EDS-XV1:HCLV\EDS-2000
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  HEADING 66.56
  ATTACHED 0:0,HCLV-XV1
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  PL_DESCRIPTION Smerch-XV1 0.000 0.000 14.000 -0.0000 -0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000 0
  IN_JETTISON 0 0
  J_MARKER 0.000000
  Misc 0.000000
  Fairing 5 1
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Smerch-XV1:SmerchTug
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  ATTACHED 1:0,EDS-XV1
  AFCMODE 7
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  NAVFREQ 0 0 0 0
  XPDR 0
  TUGSTATE 0
  JETTISONSPEED 1.000000
  JETTISONINT 5.000000
  ADAPTER_TYPE 2
  STARTS 10 0 0
  ALLOW_AUTO_DELETE 0
  ALLOW_SEND_FOCUS 1
  PL_DESCRIPTION DM-XV1 0.000 0.000 10.500 -0.0000 -0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000 0
  IN_JETTISON 0 0
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END
DM-XV1:DMTug
  STATUS Landed Earth
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  ATTACHED 1:0,Smerch-XV1
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0 0 0
  XPDR 0
  TUGSTATE 0
  JETTISONSPEED 1.000000
  JETTISONINT 5.000000
  ADAPTER_TYPE 2
  STARTS 7 0 0
  ALLOW_AUTO_DELETE 0
  ALLOW_SEND_FOCUS 1
  PL_DESCRIPTION Carina-XV1 0.000 0.000 2.570 -0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 0
  IN_JETTISON 0 0
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END
Carina-XV1:Carina
  STATUS Landed Earth
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  HEADING 66.56
  ATTACHED 2:0,DM-XV1
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:06 PM   #19
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Hi Loru,I am kind of confused with the Carina scenario,I get the HCLV up to 250x250 ecc 0.0 and I seperate the payload-EDS stage,but when I go to switch to the EDS stage and open the the Hyperion MFD,I don't see the EDS stage,and can't start the engines with the Launch button.

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Old 07-23-2013, 09:20 PM   #20
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The EDS is controlled like a normal vessel, the MFD only works with the launch vehicle itself.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:37 AM   #21
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 Thank Woo482. Without him it would be just petty velcro or multistage contraption.
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 For the second time - I only created concept and visual part - dirty work is Woo482's. He made it possible


That's what I get for a quick and dirty post right before I was off to work. Adam, we love your work, too!

Thanks edited, and reaffirmed here: Thank you both for this addon. The installation was a breeze, and the interface was a real treat to work with, to put a sidemount stack right on LC-39B, ready to go. Now I have some more time to play.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:05 AM   #22
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K_Jameson, thank you for saying that both .dll and sc3/ms2 developers can contribute to the Orbiter community.

Great "in-line Energia" launcher, too.

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Old 07-24-2013, 06:17 PM   #23
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I recommend use on Donamy's Jason, looks great!
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:25 PM   #24
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 I recommend use on Donamy's Jason, looks great!
Have you used inline or sidemount version?
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:09 PM   #25
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It might look pretty good (sidemount), provided you don't use the Jason 2nd stage (but then you lose the docking point).
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:27 PM   #26
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I think there needs to be a longer fairing. Skylab can't even fit in the "2000" fairing.

edit: I know, I could have made my own fairing.

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Old 07-24-2013, 08:32 PM   #27
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Doc\HCLV\HCLV-Hyperion_SDK.pdf

There is even 3ds file provided for reference.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:09 PM   #28
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 Have you used inline or sidemount version?
Haven't used inline, but for sidemount it looks nice.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:25 PM   #29
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Just noticed that I've packed wrong texture for sidemount version.

New is uploaded in
main package.


Sorry for that.

---------- Post added at 11:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 PM ----------

Or just download texture file and put it in Textures\HCLV\ folder

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...-sidemount.dds
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:12 PM   #30
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What would be the best version of the HCLV to use for the Jason lunar lander?
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