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Old 07-25-2010, 07:10 PM   #46
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 Orbinaut Pete, is this how much you can read in one day??
I never said I read all of them, I just come across them/get them sent to me & I post them for people that do!

I didn't know that we had a new smiley!

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Ha, did anyone really expect these guys to die quietly? Time for round II...

Space Politics: "Commercial space advocates regroup".

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Florida Today: "Shuttle shutdown could launch sales of collectibles".

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:10 PM   #48
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I know a lot of people getting laid off (some of whom(?) they already knew about it way before the notice).
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:46 PM   #49
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 I know a lot of people getting laid off (some of whom(?) they already knew about it way before the notice).
I can't believe they're still laying people off - surely they should wait until NASA's future becomes "official" before they lay more people off? There are still some fairly powerful people in Congress (Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison) who want a Shuttle extension until new commercial spacecraft are fully operational (which could mean an extension into 2014 or later).

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More on the CSIS report:

Space News: "New Report Urges U.S. To Overhaul Launch Policies".

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Space News: "Wolf: Prospects Bleak for Timely Passage of NASA Spending Bill".

Space Policy Online: "Wolf: U.S. Must Be Number One in Space, Not Cooperate with China".


SpaceRef: "CSF Welcomes New Members".


Popular Mechanics: "Is NASA Being Set Up To Fail (Again)? Analysis".

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Old 07-27-2010, 11:04 PM   #50
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Just got an e-mail from a contact at USA: she says her job is safe until Christmas. I'll call around later in the week to see if anyone else I know is being let go (sooner or later).
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:59 PM   #51
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Florida Today: "USA workers on notice".

SPACE.com: "More Than 1,300 Space Shuttle Workers Get Layoff Notices".


Space Politics: "Wolf makes few predictions about the NASA appropriations process".

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Space Policy Online: "Congress Sends FY2010 Supplemental to the President, Constellation Language Included".

Florida Today's "The Flame Trench" Blog: "Supplemental war bill includes NASA provision on Constellation".

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Space Politics: "House approves Constellation language, but does it still matter?".


Space News: "NASA Bill Headed for Vote in House".

Space Politics: "House to take up authorization bill this week after all".


Space Politics: "SpaceX, suborbital advocates fight NASA authorization bill".

Space News: "Commercial Space Advocates Rally To Stall NASA Authorization Bill".

Florida Today's "The Flame Trench" Blog: "SpaceX rallies opposition to House NASA bill".

SpaceRef: "Your Help Urgently Needed to Save the Future of Human Spaceflight".


The Huntsville Times: "NASA didn't break the law, but did it break its promise to contractors?".


Houston Chronicle's/Eric Berger's "SciGuy" Blog: "So the Aggies want a space shuttle ...".

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A funny (and sadly true) cartoon:



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Discovery News: "Stealth Funding for NASA's Constellation".

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Check out this awesome NASA commercial - this is exactly what NASA should mean & do!

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Old 07-30-2010, 11:48 AM   #52
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I just got a frantic email from SpaceX:

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 NASA’s Authorization bill (H.R. 5781) will be debated on the floor of the US House of Representatives tomorrow. Despite the imminent retirement of the Space Shuttle, H.R. 5781 authorizes over five times as many taxpayer dollars to fly NASA astronauts on the Russian Soyuz than it invests in developing an American commercial alternative, moreover at a time when jobs are sorely needed in the United States. Quite simply, this bill represents the sort of senseless pork politics that has driven our national debt to the point where our economy can barely service it.

No surprise that Musk is pissed... d0h! But... is it true?

The bill passed the House of Representatives and can be found here:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...5781rh.txt.pdf

A few extracts:
Money for NASA:
2011: 19 billion
2012: 19.45 billion
2013: 19.96 billion

Within the budget, money for COTS and for commercial crew activities:
2011: 14 million for COTS, 50 million for commercial crew activities
2012: 0 COTS (that I could find), 50 million for commercial crew activities
2013: 0 COTS, 50 million for commercial crew activities

I don't know what category the Soyuz falls into and what bits and pieces Musk might have omitted, to make the email scarier. So, if anyone's willing to take look at it, I'd be grateful


The bill is 110 pages long. I only read Title 1 - Authorization of appropriations, but interesting read
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:00 PM   #53
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Sounds fitting... each seat on Soyuz is 50 million USD. 150 million USD for COTS is not that much then.
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:45 PM   #54
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Wow... at 50e6$ the seat, Russia makes an interesting profit... The whole Soyuz launch vehicle (capsule included) costs a lot less than that if I remember well)
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:51 PM   #55
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 Wow... at 50e6$ the seat, Russia makes an interesting profit... The whole Soyuz launch vehicle (capsule included) costs a lot less than that if I remember well)
Well, if NASA does not want to pay the price, they could go to the competitors...
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:10 PM   #56
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Space Politics: "HR 5781 schedule, and supporting the home team".

Space News: "Vote on NASA Bill Appears Unlikely Before September".

Space Politics: "More speak out about NASA authorization bill".

msnbc Cosmic Log: "Showdown over space policy".

Florida Today: "Musk: Support U.S. space builders".

DIRECT Team Urges House to Adopt Senate NASA Plan for 2011.

Space Access Update: "NASA Exploration Funding: An URGENT Call To Action".

The Planetary Society: "Planetary Society Urges Debate on NASA Authorization Bill".


Orlando Sentinel's "The Write Stuff" Blog: "Cabana: Challenges facing KSC not for the 'faint-hearted'".

Orlando Sentinel: "Space Center future will be bright – eventually, its director says".

Florida Today's "The Flame Trench" Blog: "Cabana: Challenging time ahead for KSC".

Florida Today: "KSC's Cabana sees space center comeback".

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Wow, lots of space policy stuff going on today!

Space Politics: "NASA authorization bill postponed, and other reaction".

SpaceRef: "IFPTE/AFGE Letter on NASA Authorization Act".

SpaceRef: "Lockheed Martin Commends Bi-Partisan Support for NASA FY 2011 Budget".

The Planetary Society Blog: "Update on the NASA Authorization Bill".


SPACE.com: "Hunt for Life's Building Blocks in Space Gets NASA Boost".


Space Policy Online: "NASA Plutonium Supplies Still in Jeopardy".


NASA Watch: "Bolden Is Operating In Cloaked Mode These Days".

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Old 07-30-2010, 09:32 PM   #57
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SPACE.com: "Ambitious Venus Mission Ideas Include Robots, Planes, Humans".

NASASpaceFlight: "MOD positioning for potential Flagship Technology Demonstrations role".

Pretty cool stuff!

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FYI, NASA legend
Wayne Hale Wayne Hale
is retiring today. The NASA brain drain continues.
Good luck to a great man.

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 Last Friday - last day! - at NASA. Last commute, last time to put on the office coffee, time to turn in the badge and move on.

3 NASA Flight Directors retiring today: Antares (Bob Castle), Arcturus (John Curry), and Turquoise (me). Our billets go to young people!
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Old 08-01-2010, 01:36 PM   #59
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Houston Chronicle: "Private sector's role may expand in space travel".

Check out this really great interview of the now retired Wayne Hale by Eric Berger of the Houston Chronicle.
Houston Chronicle's/Eric Berger's "SciGuy" Blog: "Sunday conversation with Wayne Hale, a rarity, an engineer who is an extraordinary communicator".
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:39 PM   #60
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The US Air Force is trying a new AMR sccheduling strategy:

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/...ch+traffic+jam

and here's one helluva collector:

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/...3-000-T-shirts

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