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Old 11-25-2015, 01:01 AM   #1051
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Seems like SpaceX has secured the CCtCap NASA contract for their first manned mission.

http://www.space.com/31198-nasa-spac...pr=17610706465
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Old 11-27-2015, 07:48 AM   #1052
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34941386

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Debris from a Nasa rocket which blew up moments after take-off appears to have reached the Isles of Scilly.


The unmanned Falcon-9 SpaceX rocket, which was carrying supplies, exploded as it left Cape Canaveral in Florida in June.
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:11 PM   #1053
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Some detective work from the web seems to indicate that this might come from the CRS-4 launch last September instead.
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Old 11-27-2015, 04:01 PM   #1054
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At least it is a major part of a Dragon capsule launch - but the drift current speed method has some errors in it. The north Atlantic current is pretty slow (0.1 m/s), but the Gulf stream leading to it is much faster (up to 2.5 m/s)

http://oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu...tti-speed.html
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:28 PM   #1055
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Does this interstage separate or does it remain attached to the first stage? If it separates in flight, it could have gone quite a distance downrange, couldn't it?
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:31 PM   #1056
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 Does this interstage separate or does it remain attached to the first stage? If it separates in flight, it could have gone quite a distance downrange, couldn't it?
It remains bolted to the first stage.
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:50 PM   #1057
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Pretty awesome part to find, with the flag and the Falcon 9 art.

It would look good in a pub!

Does maritime salvage law apply here? Finders keepers?
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Old 11-27-2015, 11:20 PM   #1058
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Could get tricky, The Receiver Of Wrecks is involved
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receiver_of_Wreck

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Traditionally, salvage was an important economic source in coastal areas and sometimes exposed the savage and merciless nature of those around the coast. Folklore has it that some coastal dwellers enticed ships to a watery grave by luring them onto the rocks. This was known as Wrecking. So that order could be maintained and local people encouraged to save those in peril and their belongings rather than pillage them, Receivers of Wreck were appointed to keep order and reward those who assisted in a wreck event. Historically, Receivers were given powers which allowed them to "hurt, maim or kill" anyone obstructing them in their duties. Theoretically at least Receivers of Wreck were permitted to carry weapons with which to defend themselves whilst carrying out their duties up until 1997.

The Act of 1995 updates the prior Merchant Shipping Act 1894. The Receiver is an official under Admiralty Jurisdiction.
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Then again, they might just let SpaceX have their rocket back!

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Old 11-28-2015, 11:35 AM   #1059
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If SpaceX want it back, they will probably cover the cost/loss of earnings of the recovering vessel, plus a finders fee. But it is salvage, so if SpaceX does not say they want it, it can be sold on to who ever wants it. After a year of course.

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Old 11-28-2015, 01:04 PM   #1060
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Why would SpaceX want it back? It is barnacle-covered garbage.

Reuse has its limits.
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Old 11-28-2015, 01:10 PM   #1061
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Maybe from an engineering aspect, see what stress its been exposed to?

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Old 11-28-2015, 01:22 PM   #1062
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The stress of impacting the ocean is of no concern to them.
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Old 11-28-2015, 01:41 PM   #1063
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Maybe not, but it may show something they weren't expecting. I'd be very surprised if they didn't want it back, not least as an early piece for their museum...

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NASA releases summary of investigation into SpaceX’s 2015 launch failure: https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/03/1...aunch-failure/
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