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Old 10-20-2019, 11:37 PM   #25606
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 Dyatlov notes (correctly, IMO) that the junior control room engineers very likely would have been tried and convicted had they survived as well.
They were.

By physics; the judge, jury, and executioner.
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Old 10-21-2019, 06:04 PM   #25607
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Still on the subject of scary nuclear accidents (well, are there any that aren't?) , it's worth checking out Andreev Bay. Since it was a military facility, they couldn't really be bothered to do anything about it. Just send some grunts to do the fixing. Since most of the grunts weren't that naive and knew what it was, they just did the minimum necessary and got the hell out or away ASAP. Even if it meant leaving used fuel cilinders exposed to the elements. Or dumping them in a pile in what was a continually leaking pool.

Now, that general or whatever he is might be exagerating, but it's worth noting that this kind of speaking up is unusual in Russia, even today (even more so today). And even though those weren't nuclear explosions, it's acceptable that those pools probably did experience spontaneaous fission due to the rods just being dumped like that AND submarine reactors were probably tough to handle in the best of cases.

Edit: wasn't that nuclear accident in August near Murmansk? Makes you think if it was really a test or they fudged up again in Andreev Bay. Perhaps they're ok with doing tests there since the area is probably screwed anyway.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/ec...cleanup-starts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andree...clear_accident

https://translate.google.com/transla...fotoindex.html

This is presumably how they were storing them in the 'pool' :







I think this is the dry storage.


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Old 10-22-2019, 12:07 PM   #25608
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Its like the fun with the German long term storage for nuclear waste... 60% of the waste inside the storage of the GDR at Morsleben (Just next door to the former border) is from west German nuclear power plants. A new conservative, talented minister for nuclear safety called Angela Merkel back then ordered to use it because it already existed (And tried to extend its operation license by trying to let GDR law apply in reunified Germany for a few years more) . But, all was orderly stored and documented there by the former GDR engineers and removing the waste is no high-risk operation today, they even used sophisticated storages comparable to modern CASTOR casks.

And more fun, only a few kilometers away, at Asse, is the western German "experimental" storage just on the other side of the former border. It was only supposed to be used for testing technologies. But they simply dropped simple steel barrels into the salt and move some more salt over it, which makes it almost impossible to retrieved all waste from it. Also, it is partially unknown, what is stored there. Not all barrels had been properly documented. It is plain luck, that no criticality event took place there yet - nobody knows how much Plutonium for example is put into a small volume and further compacted.

And more fun: Contrary to previous claims of western German politicians about the GDR storage, this one is still solid and not threatened of immediate flooding, while the western German one is already slowly flooding and time is running out to evacuate the nuclear waste from there.

And now, does Russia still look so much more dangerous to you compared to the nonsense lazy politicians here can do?

---------- Post added 22nd Oct 2019 at 14:07 ---------- Previous post was 21st Oct 2019 at 23:24 ----------

The true reason why the Boris has to ask for a new Brexit date:


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Old 10-22-2019, 01:53 PM   #25609
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Narnia in the E.U. Briliant! Not sure if its a good or bad idea.

Can't remember if I read the book, but I know the story. Bit of a rabid lion in there somewhere?
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:45 PM   #25610
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Makes me wonder... is the magic kingdom in Pans Labyrinth maybe also EU member? I suspect not since they have strict border controls...
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Old 10-22-2019, 05:37 PM   #25611
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 Narnia in the E.U. Briliant! Not sure if its a good or bad idea.

Can't remember if I read the book, but I know the story. Bit of a rabid lion in there somewhere?
Rabid? No.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:04 PM   #25612
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Mordor may have done a deal, they'll join as long as the UK is out.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:25 PM   #25613
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 Mordor may have done a deal, they'll join as long as the UK is out.

I thought the EU is already Mordor... one ring of stars to rule them all and drive into the dark blue.


Seriously, thats as political as I want to get here. The real Brexit is a serious topic, but this comic and its fantasy implications are too funny to keep hidden.



And everybody knows, Britain works better in "Splendid Isolation", as in the "Engel" RPG source material.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:50 PM   #25614
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Perfidious Albion, as one of our favourite combatants said.

Probably De 'Gaulle had a point vetoing UK entry as being too disruptive.
Strange the end comes from the political party that took us into the "Common Market" and did a lot of work when in there.
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:18 PM   #25615
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Re #25600 above and the rest, a video from Scott Manley

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Old 10-24-2019, 09:26 PM   #25616
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Makes me wonder... is the magic kingdom in Pans Labyrinth maybe also EU member? I suspect not since they have strict border controls...
It makes me wonder whether that automatically includes the Kingdom of Kalormen, or if there's an EU border in Archenland?
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:41 PM   #25617
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 It makes me wonder whether that automatically includes the Kingdom of Kalormen, or if there's an EU border in Archenland?

What would Vetinari do?
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:50 PM   #25618
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Re the HBO production, as I have said enjoying it as a drama, makes you think. Though it does portray the USSR as a region that is mostly lit by 40W light bulbs, including the power station. Artistic license.
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Old 10-24-2019, 10:02 PM   #25619
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 Re the HBO production, as I have said enjoying it as a drama, makes you think. Though it does portray the USSR as a region that is mostly lit by 40W light bulbs, including the power station. Artistic license.

Well, it was filmed in the EU - you know how hard it is to get 100W light bulbs today here.
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Old 10-24-2019, 10:47 PM   #25620
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I still have several, though they are too hot to actually get them out the sockets.
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