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Old 06-13-2018, 11:43 PM   #256
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Latest on the OMS PODs WIP
added more details and testing the scorched effects n HRSI tiles for Columbia and Challenger pods


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I think adding NM also to the scorching is quite realistic. In fact from the real orbiters pictures the tiles show some erosion and their surface is not even anymore
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:28 PM   #257
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Wolf, I hope you don't mind but I made an addition to your OMS pod texture(s) which is a texture of the downward firing vernier jet on the ARCS "stinger": https://www.dropbox.com/s/u73zgjkg8k...rnier.jpg?dl=0

The updated textures can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhc0ez799u...MSpod.dds?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gbdr1k1eec...MSpod.dds?dl=0

This change will be part of the new Orbiter once the texture issue has been resolved.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:36 AM   #258
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 Wolf, I hope you don't mind but I made an addition to your OMS pod texture(s) which is a texture of the downward firing vernier jet on the ARCS "stinger": https://www.dropbox.com/s/u73zgjkg8k...rnier.jpg?dl=0

The updated textures can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhc0ez799u...MSpod.dds?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gbdr1k1eec...MSpod.dds?dl=0

This change will be part of the new Orbiter once the texture issue has been resolved.

No problem. I'll have to add it to the latest OMS POD textures since the ones you sent on dropbox are outdated
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:56 AM   #259
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While working on the orbiter, I noticed that the alignment of the aft compartment access doors (50-1 and 50-2) aren't aligned properly with each other. I have included a screenshot from AC3D with both sides lined up exactly with a vertical box that shows the issue. As you can see, on the starboard side the box barely touches the top corner of the 50-2 door while the on the port side it covers slightly indicating that the alignment is off.

Another thing I have noticed is that the AFRSI blanket pattern on the OMS pods isn't correct. I'd use the default SSU OMS pod texture as a guide as I spent several hours putting it together and making sure the pattern was correct.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h75dr8axz6...nment.jpg?dl=0
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:56 AM   #260
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Found another issue with the hi-res textures: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhgbr38rp0...igned.jpg?dl=0

As you can see, the "salad bowl" of the -Y ET umbilical well isn't properly aligned with where it should be. Could you also remove the black areas from the payload bay doors? They're not needed for SSU as we use separate textures for the OMS pods which has the black tiled carrier panels.

Here's two photos of the ET umbilical wells in a flight configuration (photos of the OV-102 ET umbilical wells taken on the SLF runway as part of the initial post-landing runway inspections of the orbiter):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ecsqfluc9...lical.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5ndif1215...lical.jpg?dl=0

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Old 08-21-2018, 01:02 PM   #261
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The pics look the same.
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:14 PM   #262
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 The pics look the same.
Oops! Sorry about that. I have edited and fixed the links.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:51 PM   #263
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 Found another issue with the hi-res textures: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhgbr38rp0...igned.jpg?dl=0

As you can see, the "salad bowl" of the -Y ET umbilical well isn't properly aligned with where it should be. Could you also remove the black areas from the payload bay doors? They're not needed for SSU as we use separate textures for the OMS pods which has the black tiled carrier panels.

Here's two photos of the ET umbilical wells in a flight configuration (photos of the OV-102 ET umbilical wells taken on the SLF runway as part of the initial post-landing runway inspections of the orbiter):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ecsqfluc9...lical.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5ndif1215...lical.jpg?dl=0
Sorry but what do you mean by “salad bowl” and what is not aligned?
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:56 PM   #264
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The "salad bowl" is hemispherical socket half of the ball/socket joint where the aft ET/Orbiter structural attachments are located on the orbiter. It's called the "salad bowl" due its green liner and it is bowl shaped. The misalignment is between the actual mesh location and the location of in in the texture. -Y in the screenshot is to the right which on the orbiter is the left.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:59 PM   #265
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 The "salad bowl" is hemispherical socket half of the ball/socket joint where the aft ET/Orbiter structural attachments are located on the orbiter. It's called the "salad bowl" due its green liner and it is bowl shaped. The misalignment is between the actual mesh location and the location of in in the texture. -Y in the screenshot is to the right which on the orbiter is the left.

He should hold off any work on it, until you're finished with the mesh. IMO
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:07 PM   #266
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 He should hold off any work on it, until you're finished with the mesh. IMO
That's exactly why I put myself on a hold (plus I do not have time now to work on the textures).
Once you guys are done with your job on the orbiter then I ll resume my work

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 The "salad bowl" is hemispherical socket half of the ball/socket joint where the aft ET/Orbiter structural attachments are located on the orbiter. It's called the "salad bowl" due its green liner and it is bowl shaped. The misalignment is between the actual mesh location and the location of in in the texture. -Y in the screenshot is to the right which on the orbiter is the left.

I haven't touched the ET umbelicals at all. They are the SSU original ones and I cannot see what you re talking about: looking at the SSU ET umbelicals screenshot you posted everything looks ok to me.

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Old 08-25-2018, 03:23 PM   #267
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 That's exactly why I put myself on a hold (plus I do not have time now to work on the textures).
Once you guys are done with your job on the orbiter then I ll resume my work

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I haven't touched the ET umbelicals at all. They are the SSU original ones and I cannot see what you re talking about: looking at the SSU ET umbelicals screenshot you posted everything looks ok to me.
I have updated the screenshot with circles around the "salad bowls". The "salad bowls" are the aft structural attachment points on the orbiter to the ET. The forward attachment is the bipod yoke which is mated to the red bipod struts on the ET.


The during ET/Orbiter Mate (S0004) the aft structural attachments are the first to be soft-mated. Once aft soft-mate has been achieved, aft hard-mate begins. Once that's done, forward soft-mate and hard-mate commences. Once the orbiter has been structurally mated to the ET, the actual umbilical mates are done by first extending the orbiter umbilical disconnect plates until they touch the ET umbilical disconnect plates which are fixed. Then they hard mate them by installing three pyrotechnic frangible bolts on the orbiter side (that's three per side for a total of six).


This completes ET/Orbiter Mate. For ET sep, the frangible bolts are detonated and then the orbiter umbilical plates are retracted so that the ET umbilical well doors can be closed. All of this takes place before the structural frangible bolts are detonated and cause physical separation of the ET from the orbiter.
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