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Old 03-30-2015, 08:39 AM   #1
DareDrop
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Default XR1 and XR2 docking collars

So I was trying to do a ship to ship docking with an XR1 and a XR2 and it seems I could not do this. Is this a docking collar issue, a bug, or a setting that I missed?

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Old 03-30-2015, 10:06 AM   #2
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There shouldn't be any reason why they wouldn't dock to each other. Can you post your scenario?
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:39 AM   #3
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A screenshot of the two ships together would help as well.

Was this on the ground or in space?
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:13 AM   #4
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I've made a test scenario to be a normal, hopefully functional control. Try it out by copying the text in the code box below into Notepad, then saving it as "XR2 and XR1 dock test.scn" and loading it up in Orbiter.

Code:
BEGIN_DESC
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 51982.7311347141
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship XR1-01
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET XR1-01
  MODE Extern
  POS 4.48 75.63 -10.60
  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 40.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Orbit
  REF AUTO
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Map
  REF Earth
  BTARGET Cape Canaveral
  TRACK ON
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Orbit
  PROJ Ship
  FRAME Equator
  ALT
  REF Earth
END_MFD

BEGIN_PANEL
END_PANEL


BEGIN_SHIPS
XR1-01:DeltaGliderXR1
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 3080026.57 4597695.37 -3494324.89
  RVEL 6075.585 -290.344 4922.760
  AROT -3.06 -51.14 -42.17
  VROT 0.00 0.07 0.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.660 1:0.998 2:0.074
  DOCKINFO 0:0,XR2-01
  IDS 0:199 100
  NAVFREQ 94 524 84 114
  XPDR 193
  SECONDARY_HUD 5
  LAST_ACTIVE_SECONDARY_HUD 0
  ADCTRL_MODE 0
  TAKEOFF_LANDING_CALLOUTS 7418.739073 24.097000 24.102000 0.000000
  APU_FUEL_QTY 0.834
  LOX_QTY 0.995567
  CABIN_O2_LEVEL 0.209
  CREW_STATE 0
  INTERNAL_SYSTEMS_FAILURE 0
  MWS_ACTIVE 0
  COOLANT_TEMP 32.529
  DMG_0 1.000000 Left Wing
  DMG_1 1.000000 Right Wing
  DMG_2 1.000000 Left Aileron
  DMG_3 1.000000 Right Aileron
  DMG_4 1.000000 Landing Gear
  DMG_5 1.000000 Nosecone
  DMG_6 1.000000 Retro Doors
  DMG_7 1.000000 Top Hatch
  DMG_8 1.000000 Radiator
  DMG_9 1.000000 Airbrake
  DMG_10 1.000000 Left Main Engine
  DMG_11 1.000000 Right Main Engine
  DMG_12 1.000000 Left SCRAM Engine
  DMG_13 1.000000 Right SCRAM Engine
  DMG_14 1.000000 Fore Hover Engine
  DMG_15 1.000000 Aft Hover Engine
  DMG_16 1.000000 Left Retro Engine
  DMG_17 1.000000 Right Retro Engine
  DMG_18 1.000000 Forward Lower RCS
  DMG_19 1.000000 Aft Upper RCS
  DMG_20 1.000000 Forward Upper RCS
  DMG_21 1.000000 Aft Lower RCS
  DMG_22 1.000000 Forward Star. RCS
  DMG_23 1.000000 Aft Port RCS
  DMG_24 1.000000 Forward Port RCS
  DMG_25 1.000000 Aft Star. RCS
  DMG_26 1.000000 Outboard Upper Port RCS
  DMG_27 1.000000 Outboard Lower Star. RCS
  DMG_28 1.000000 Outboard Upper Star. RCS
  DMG_29 1.000000 Outboard Lower Port RCS
  DMG_30 1.000000 Aft RCS
  DMG_31 1.000000 Forward RCS
  IS_CRASHED 0
  MET_STARTING_MJD 51982.669219
  INTERVAL1_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
  INTERVAL2_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
  MET_RUNNING 1
  INTERVAL1_RUNNING 0
  INTERVAL2_RUNNING 0
  ACTIVE_MDM 3
  TEMP_SCALE 2
  CUSTOM_AUTOPILOT_MODE 0
  AIRSPEED_HOLD_ENGAGED 0
  ATTITUDE_HOLD_DATA 0.000000 0.000000 0 0
  DESCENT_HOLD_DATA 0.000000 -3.000000 0
  AIRSPEED_HOLD_DATA 0.000000
  ARM_DOORS 0 0
  TERTIARY_HUD_ON 1
  NOSECONE 1 1.0000
  RADIATOR 1 1.0000
  TRIM 0.030
  XR1UMMU_CREW_DATA_VALID 1
  UMMUCREW XI0-Michael_Samuel-37-72-68
  UMMUCREW XI1-Nikita_Simone-29-72-68
  UMMUCREW XI2-Madeline_Dolenc-36-72-68
  UMMUCREW XI3-Seymore_Birkoff-24-72-68
  UMMUCREW XI4-Katherine_Quinn-28-72-68
END
XR2-01:XR2Ravenstar
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -5162407.29 -3388968.28 2699300.62
  RVEL -4399.314 6283.349 -519.496
  AROT -20.92 -43.26 103.28
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.604 1:0.938
  DOCKINFO 0:0,
  IDS 0:199 100
  NAVFREQ 588 466 84 114
  XPDR 193
  SECONDARY_HUD 2
  LAST_ACTIVE_SECONDARY_HUD 0
  ADCTRL_MODE 0
  TAKEOFF_LANDING_CALLOUTS 7406.868421 20.150000 20.152000 0.000000 2.181973
  APU_FUEL_QTY 0.824
  LOX_QTY 0.996974
  CABIN_O2_LEVEL 0.209
  CREW_STATE 0
  INTERNAL_SYSTEMS_FAILURE 0
  COGSHIFT_MODES 0 0 0
  MWS_ACTIVE 0
  COOLANT_TEMP 36.518
  DMG_0 1.000000 Left Wing
  DMG_1 1.000000 Right Wing
  DMG_2 1.000000 Left Aileron
  DMG_3 1.000000 Right Aileron
  DMG_4 1.000000 Landing Gear
  DMG_5 1.000000 Nosecone
  DMG_6 1.000000 Retro Doors
  DMG_7 1.000000 Top Hatch
  DMG_8 1.000000 Radiator
  DMG_9 1.000000 Airbrake
  DMG_10 1.000000 Left Main Engine
  DMG_11 1.000000 Right Main Engine
  DMG_12 1.000000 Left SCRAM Engine
  DMG_13 1.000000 Right SCRAM Engine
  DMG_14 1.000000 Fore Hover Engine
  DMG_15 1.000000 Aft Hover Engine
  DMG_16 1.000000 Left Retro Engine
  DMG_17 1.000000 Right Retro Engine
  DMG_18 1.000000 Forward Lower RCS
  DMG_19 1.000000 Aft Upper RCS
  DMG_20 1.000000 Forward Upper RCS
  DMG_21 1.000000 Aft Lower RCS
  DMG_22 1.000000 Forward Star. RCS
  DMG_23 1.000000 Aft Port RCS
  DMG_24 1.000000 Forward Port RCS
  DMG_25 1.000000 Aft Star. RCS
  DMG_26 1.000000 Outboard Upper Port RCS
  DMG_27 1.000000 Outboard Lower Star. RCS
  DMG_28 1.000000 Outboard Upper Star. RCS
  DMG_29 1.000000 Outboard Lower Port RCS
  DMG_30 1.000000 Aft RCS
  DMG_31 1.000000 Forward RCS
  DMG_32 1.000000 Bay Doors
  IS_CRASHED 0
  MET_STARTING_MJD 51984.605550
  INTERVAL1_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
  INTERVAL2_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
  MET_RUNNING 1
  INTERVAL1_RUNNING 0
  INTERVAL2_RUNNING 0
  ACTIVE_MDM 3
  TEMP_SCALE 2
  CUSTOM_AUTOPILOT_MODE 0
  AIRSPEED_HOLD_ENGAGED 0
  SCRAM0DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
  SCRAM1DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
  HOVER_BALANCE 0.000
  MAIN0DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
  MAIN1DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
  GIMBAL_BUTTON_STATES 0 0 0 0 0 0
  ATTITUDE_HOLD_DATA 2.500000 0.000000 0 0 0.000000
  DESCENT_HOLD_DATA 0.000000 -3.000000 0
  AIRSPEED_HOLD_DATA 173.924650
  OVERRIDE_INTERLOCKS 0 0
  TERTIARY_HUD_ON 1
  CREW_DISPLAY_INDEX 0
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  RCOVER 0 0.0000
  NOSECONE 1 1.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  IAIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  CHAMBER 0 0.0000
  AIRBRAKE 0 0.0000
  RADIATOR 1 1.0000
  HATCH 0 0.0000
  SCRAM_DOORS 0 0.0000
  HOVER_DOORS 0 0.0000
  BAY_DOORS 0 0.0000
  APU_STATUS 0
  EXTCOOLING_STATUS 0
  TRIM -0.003
  LIGHTS 1 0 0
  XRUMMU_CREW_DATA_VALID 1
  UMMUCREW XI0-Lee_Nash-39-65-78
  UMMUCREW XI1-Kara_Miller-32-65-58
  UMMUCREW XI2-Sharon_Valerii-26-67-54
  UMMUCREW XI3-Cameron_Mitchell-36-65-77
  UMMUCREW XI4-Samantha_Carter-33-66-53
  UMMUCREW XI5-Daniel_Jackson-35-68-75
  UMMUCREW XI6-Teal_c-31-64-104
  UMMUCREW XI7-Vala_Mal_Doran-30-67-53
  UMMUCREW XI8-Elizabeth_Weir-36-68-56
  UMMUCREW XI9-John_Sheppard-34-64-77
  UMMUCREW XI10-Rodney_McKay-35-72-90
  UMMUCREW XI11-Teyla_Emmagan-27-68-57
  UMMUCREW XI12-Ronon_Dex-32-63-97
  UMMUCREW XI13-Carson_Beckett-38-74-95
  PAYLOAD_SCREENS_DATA 0.2 0 1 1
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END
After loading up the scenario, you should see something just like the photo attached. Here's to the hope your Orbiter install hasn't gone bonkers.
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Old 03-30-2015, 02:41 PM   #5
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Did you remember to turn it on... the APU that is?
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:10 PM   #6
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Orbiter 2010 base install, with...

DeltaGliderIV-3_2010_20140109
OrbiterSound40_20121120_setup
DeltaGliderXR1-1.11a
XR2Ravenstar-1.6a
XR5Vanguard-1.9a
StateSaver 1.1
BurnTimeCalculator-v-2.32
BaseSyncMFD23
AeroBrake0.96.2

XR2 in lunar orbit and low on fuel.
XR1 Landed and Brighten Beach.

XR1 Must launch and tank the XR2 in orbit so it can land.

I fooled around bumping nose's with both ship and could not get a dock. Docking ports on both were open and I had good approaches to dock.

In the end I had to force a dock with scenario editor.

Sorry, not sure how to post .scn file
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:22 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by statickid View Post
 Did you remember to turn it on... the APU that is?
Turn the APU On? It needs to be on during docking? OH NO &^*&(.



---------- Post added 03-31-15 at 01:22 AM ---------- Previous post was 03-30-15 at 11:29 PM ----------

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 Turn the APU On? It needs to be on during docking? OH NO &^*&(.


That was it, nice and thanks for the help.
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:39 AM   #8
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I've had engineering training...so...

First rule of trouble shooting "is it turned on?"


Jk i saw your APU status was "0" in your current state file.
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:52 AM   #9
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IT help desk says "Try turning it off then back on again".
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:11 AM   #10
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You do not need the APU on to dock in the XR2, trust me on that. You need the APU on to open the nose cone to expose the docking port, but the APU does not need to be on beyond that.
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Old 03-31-2015, 08:21 AM   #11
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You did have DockMFD up? I hate to ask the obvious, but I though for a moment you might be trying to "eyeball it" instead of using the MFD. I know that's how I used to try it years ago. (I'm actually pretty good at it now, depending on what I'm approaching; but I've had a lot of practice)
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Old 03-31-2015, 05:10 PM   #12
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PhantomCruiser got a good point there, I suspect that you might be a tad off on your alignment, and if that is not the reason....I am not sure then what is going on.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:02 PM   #13
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well i'll be darned. I guess I always have the apu running, and I could have sworn there was some ship that wouldn't dock unless the apu was on, or the dock was activated... or something. anyways--

I'm even more confused about your question now, because when I copy and pasted your scn into my orbiter, and started it up... the ships ARE docked together.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:50 PM   #14
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 well i'll be darned. I guess I always have the apu running, and I could have sworn there was some ship that wouldn't dock unless the apu was on, or the dock was activated... or something. anyways--

I'm even more confused about your question now, because when I copy and pasted your scn into my orbiter, and started it up... the ships ARE docked together.

I posted that scenario to demonstrate that the XR1 and XR2 can indeed dock together. I didn't imagine I would end up confusing someone by posting it as an example- sorry for that
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