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Old 11-14-2018, 03:51 PM   #31
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I'm not sure, but I think the American flag is the only one where that happens.
You take into account the forward direction of motion and invert the flag if needed.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:44 PM   #32
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You know Vostok. You know the mod has something floating inside. This may be satisfying. Maybe you could use the following.

Gemini 3-John Youngs Sandwich
Gemini 4-Ed Whites Gloves
Gemini 5-Its Badge.
Gemini 6-Harmonica played. That could be a scn where that plays.
Gemini 7-Maps
Gemini 8-Photos of family
Gemini 9-Food
Gemini 10-Model Agena Target vehicle.
Gemini 11 Something random.
Gemini 12-Spacesuit.

I hope you like these ideas.
I hope you do them. If you dont thats fine. If you can do 1 plz let it be Youngs sanwich.
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:02 PM   #33
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 Gemini 12-Spacesuit.

You are aware how tiny a Gemini capsule cabin is with closed doors? It was already hard getting an astronaut in a spacesuit back into the cabin AND close the door above him. The spacecraft is only big enough for sitting there.

I think its much more important getting the many small differences between the Gemini spacecraft done. It was specifically designed to improve the spacecraft from mission to mission and easily access subsystems from outside.

No Gemini spacecraft was like any other. Some differences are easily visible in the VC (Event timer, fuel cells instead of batteries, command encoder, water supply) others improved the performance of the spacecraft.

And a version with the Rogallo wing and landing gear would be cool... it did never fly, but it was a nice idea.

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Old 11-14-2018, 05:05 PM   #34
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True. Suppose so. Although. You could make them small. Like a tiny corn beef sandwich.
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:32 PM   #35
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 True. Suppose so. Although. You could make them small. Like a tiny corn beef sandwich.

Yes, but where should it float? The only small free volume there is between the astronauts. And you don't want to see something float around uselessly there.



Just look at this picture, it is one of the few done from inside the spacecraft with closed hatches:




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Or this one, even better:

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Old 11-14-2018, 05:48 PM   #36
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I know but. You know vostok. That sign that floats sround the cabin. It may sound stupid but I like the idea. However. Good point.
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Old 11-14-2018, 06:33 PM   #37
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 I know but. You know vostok. That sign that floats sround the cabin. It may sound stupid but I like the idea. However. Good point.



Yeah I know it. But again, Gemini is a poor place for letting something float free. Maybe having a checklist or map appear weightless makes sense. you sure don't want to see a burst urine bag... but that was one "highlight" of a mission.
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:00 PM   #38
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Or the ice cream. Anyways. It is orbiter. Right. Anything goes. I think?...
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:29 PM   #39
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 Or the ice cream. Anyways. It is orbiter. Right. Anything goes. I think?...

Anything that can be described with code.



But not everything is fun to play.



Imagine landing Ranger on the moon by manually punching holes in punch cards....
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:36 PM   #40
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 Imagine landing Ranger on the moon by manually punching holes in punch cards....
... and then the cameras fail and you don't see anything...
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:05 PM   #41
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This link may come in handy:

http://www.geminiguide.com/

It separates the differences in cockpits into Gemini 3-7 and 8-12. Perhaps that would cut some work and consolidate things a bit?
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:58 AM   #42
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I already have all those pictures.
This is a much more interesting reference (Gemini Digital Computer Manual):
https://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/Docum...r%20Manual.pdf


But let's keep focus. My goal is getting it to do the basics.
Mission specific details are still a long way in the future.
And then there's Gemini B! I have detailed references for that panel.
But again, FOCUS on getting the basics done


Right now I'm working on the GATV launch using multistage, it looks good but I must get performance right.

If someone wants to model a new LC14, I'd welcome that.
The same for the Atlas. The existing models have some scale issues.

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Old 11-15-2018, 10:33 AM   #43
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Actually, the four "Project Gemini Familiarization Manual" volumes there are much more interesting regarding the small differences.

http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/links....craft_computer
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:30 PM   #44
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#4throck So. Are you going to do the floating.

what i mean

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Old 11-15-2018, 08:17 PM   #45
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 #4throck So. Are you going to do the floating.

Orbiter - Vostok 1 - First Ever Manned Spaceflight - YouTube what i mean

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I highly doubt it's a concern at this stage. A pointless effect is not going to be fleshed out when much more important things still have to be researched and implemented.

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