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Old 03-28-2012, 11:55 PM   #196
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What are those methods?

It will be a lighter version of the Jumbo Tanker.

Non-spacecraft3 attachments are not compatible with multistage2 config files.

(especially the kind of attachments that are defined in the scenario file, not in a config file)

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Old 03-29-2012, 12:13 AM   #197
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Okay, are we going for a propulsive capture or aerocapture? 'Cause I have an aeroshell that folds that I can get working on real quick in order to finalize teh aerodynamics, if you want it.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:53 PM   #198
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 What are those methods?

It will be a lighter version of the Jumbo Tanker.

Non-spacecraft3 attachments are not compatible with multistage2 config files.

(especially the kind of attachments that are defined in the scenario file, not in a config file)
Yes, non SC3 modules work fine with multistage. Now, is any of this actually related to OFMM or should I spin it off into it's own thread?

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 Okay, are we going for a propulsive capture or aerocapture? 'Cause I have an aeroshell that folds that I can get working on real quick in order to finalize teh aerodynamics, if you want it.
Propulsive. Initial orbit will be quite high over Mars.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:11 PM   #199
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 Yes, non SC3 modules work fine with multistage. Now, is any of this actually related to OFMM or should I spin it off into it's own thread?
I know that non-SC3 modules work with multistage, but I don't think that non-SC3 attachments (e.g. attaching the Tanker to the Smerch tug) work with multistage.

This is slightly related to OFMM.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:13 PM   #200
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Smerch uses payload manager and so will work fine. Smerch doesn't use attachment points but who says I'm sending either to Mars?
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:14 PM   #201
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 It will be a lighter version of the Jumbo Tanker.
Just sayin', the author of the Jumbo Tanker also has a lighter version, fittable in a Shuttle orbiter's PLB:
simple tank payload 2.5


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Old 03-29-2012, 06:16 PM   #202
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I was also looking at this ->
Abora_A and Selene_B version 2.0


which features a rather large fuel tank module.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:21 PM   #203
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For a 20 t payload, the Quasar 471 upper stage has about 6.3 km dV. I tried playing around with TransX, and with the May 13, 2018 window, I got a 6.5 km dV. I don't know how to reduce that.

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 I was also looking at this -> Abora_A and Selene_B version 2.0

which features a rather large fuel tank module.
That is for Orbiter 2003. It doesn't work on 2010.

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Old 03-29-2012, 06:29 PM   #204
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 For a 20 t payload, the Quasar 471 upper stage has about 6.3 km dV. I tried playing around with TransX, and with the May 13, 2018 window, I got a 6.5 km dV. I don't know how to reduce that.
Thats why we have trajectory people and a few other tricks for when we get to Mars.


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 That is for Orbiter 2003. It doesn't work on 2010.

And the fuel module works absolutely perfectly here.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:34 PM   #205
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 That is for Orbiter 2003. It doesn't work on 2010.
Configuration file format hasn't changed much since 2003, so the fuel module should still work.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:42 PM   #206
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I tried the fuel module, and it doesn't work for some reason. Even if the spacecraft.dll is installed. All I get was either the spacecraft mesh not appearing at all, or Orbiter crashing.

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Old 03-29-2012, 06:44 PM   #207
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Then you've missed something. If you want to start a seperate thread about it then go for it otherwise I'm going to keep this thread on track with OFMM discussions. Suffice to say that *IF* the Selene tank is picked to be sent to Mars (and we are not there yet) any required config file changes will be posted with the mission.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:49 PM   #208
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 Then you've missed something. If you want to start a seperate thread about it then go for it otherwise I'm going to keep this thread on track with OFMM discussions. Suffice to say that *IF* the Selene tank is picked to be sent to Mars (and we are not there yet) any required config file changes will be posted with the mission.
Sorry for butting into this all of a sudden, I'm just wondering what is final. Is Cosmos the vehicle of choice? Do you need a DSV with UMmu?
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:51 PM   #209
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I would like the Cosmos as I think the ship is rather cute and has a decent amount of dV to get to Mars and act as a fuel tank tanker (Think orbital aircraft carrier) but the decision was to go with the James Cook which I've not looked at in all that much depth.

UMMU will be fine as I'll mandate
UMMUFA v.2.0
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Old 03-29-2012, 07:03 PM   #210
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 I would like the Cosmos as I think the ship is rather cute and has a decent amount of dV to get to Mars and act as a fuel tank tanker (Think orbital aircraft carrier) but the decision was to go with the James Cook which I've not looked at in all that much depth.
Cute it is! Cosmos is underappreciated, for sure.

[shamelessplug]I have a JamesCook DLL project going on at the moment; native UMmu support is on the menu for that. It's around 30% done at the moment, UMmu and HUD are on the way.[/shamelessplug]
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