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**Face** · 01-04-2016, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred18

I think I'd better contact him to understand if he wants to develop another multistage as well. It does not make any sense to compete against each other

Indeed. I'm happy the need for genericvessel also vanished completely with this. Lesson learned: don't work for the community, let the community work for you

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**IronRain** · 01-04-2016, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel Edwards

Hooray! Vinka returns triumphantly! 2016 is going to be a good year.

Now I will wake up everyday in the hope that Orbiter 2016 is released

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Thanks Vinka! I'd sure hope that Fred and Vinka share their knowledge to create a single awesome package.

**Face** · 01-04-2016, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripley

Any news on its compatibility with Orbiter Beta?

Not fully. SC4 suffers the same payload jettison bug as SC3, at least on the latest beta.
EDIT: Also, if you switch to cockpit view (F1) in e.g. STS RMS scenario, the beta crashes.

But now that Vinka is back, I'm sure he will regularly update his work for his large user base, so nobody gets stuck 5 years with a legacy closed-source framework again

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Besides, he notes that every developer can ask him for the source code. fred18, there's your chance to get involved!

**Ripley** · 01-04-2016, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Face

...But now that Vinka is back, I'm sure he will regularly update his work for his large user base, so nobody gets stuck 5 years with a legacy closed-source framework again...

Let's hope so.

**Face** · 01-04-2016, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripley

Let's hope so.

Well, if not, there is only one thing I can say to people that again hopped onto a closed-source framework for their work: fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. But it sure will be different now, right?

Marg · 01-04-2016, 05:43 PM

I also hope he will update sc4 for new BETA, as BETA is around for some time...

**Donamy** · 01-04-2016, 06:06 PM

I am speechless !!!!

perseus · 01-06-2016, 08:27 PM

Fantastic return expected.

n122vu · 01-06-2016, 09:21 PM

I....I.....

MIND=BLOWN

jacquesmomo · 05-09-2016, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marg

I also hope he will update sc4 for new BETA, as BETA is around for some time...

I think I know : as long as the beta is still a beta, Vinka will not make update for Spacecraft.

He will wait the release of the final version of Orbiter 2016 (or... 2017,18...).

Spacecraft (3 and 4) actually does not work with this beta of Orbiter...
So let us be patient....

**Face** · 05-09-2016, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacquesmomo

I think I know : as long as the beta is still a beta, Vinka will not make update for Spacecraft.

Agreed. I've mentioned this thought - and the possible consequences - already in the beta thread: http://orbiter-forum.com/showthread....&postcount=154

4throck · 05-09-2016, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacquesmomo

Spacecraft (3 and 4) actually does not work with this beta of Orbiter...

Just tried Deltaglider approach to KSC from the SC4 test scenarios. It works with the beta. It always worked for me!

**Face** · 05-09-2016, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4throck

Just tried Deltaglider approach to KSC from the SC4 test scenarios. It works with the beta. It always worked for me!

It is no total miss, but essential things like e.g. payload jettison are not working correctly.

4throck · 05-09-2016, 08:53 PM

OK I understand that. I too miss solid UCGO+UMMU on the Beta so I understand that it's a bit unusable.

Time will sort it out.
Other solutions will emerge, we may keep using Orbiter2010, or even loose interest.

**AssemblyLanguage** · 04-17-2017, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Face

It is no total miss, but essential things like e.g. payload jettison are not working correctly.

I've been working with several versions of the NASA 747 SCA and having trouble with "j" payload jettison. http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=36528

At least with this vehicle, setting the CONFIGURATION parameter in the scenario files to 1 (=in flight) instead of 2 (=Landed) will enable "j" jettison.

---------- Post added at 04:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:43 PM ----------

On Orbiter 2016, the jettisoned payload is instantly moved about 10m to the right of the host vehicle even with the SPEED and ROT_SPEED values set to zero.

01-04-2016, 12:55 PM	#18
Face Beta Tester	Quote: Originally Posted by Ripley Any news on its compatibility with Orbiter Beta? Not fully. SC4 suffers the same payload jettison bug as SC3, at least on the latest beta. EDIT: Also, if you switch to cockpit view (F1) in e.g. STS RMS scenario, the beta crashes. But now that Vinka is back, I'm sure he will regularly update his work for his large user base, so nobody gets stuck 5 years with a legacy closed-source framework again . Besides, he notes that every developer can ask him for the source code. fred18, there's your chance to get involved! Last edited by Face; 01-04-2016 at 01:02 PM.

05-09-2016, 08:53 PM	#29
4throck Enthusiast !	OK I understand that. I too miss solid UCGO+UMMU on the Beta so I understand that it's a bit unusable. Time will sort it out. Other solutions will emerge, we may keep using Orbiter2010, or even loose interest. Last edited by 4throck; 05-09-2016 at 08:57 PM.

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01-04-2016, 11:06 AM	#16
Face Beta Tester	Quote: Originally Posted by fred18 I think I'd better contact him to understand if he wants to develop another multistage as well. It does not make any sense to compete against each other Indeed. I'm happy the need for genericvessel also vanished completely with this. Lesson learned: don't work for the community, let the community work for you .

01-04-2016, 11:08 AM	#17
IronRain Moderator	Quote: Originally Posted by Samuel Edwards Hooray! Vinka returns triumphantly! 2016 is going to be a good year. Now I will wake up everyday in the hope that Orbiter 2016 is released . Thanks Vinka! I'd sure hope that Fred and Vinka share their knowledge to create a single awesome package.

01-04-2016, 03:45 PM	#19
Ripley Tutorial translator	Quote: Originally Posted by Face ...But now that Vinka is back, I'm sure he will regularly update his work for his large user base, so nobody gets stuck 5 years with a legacy closed-source framework again... Let's hope so.

01-04-2016, 04:45 PM	#20
Face Beta Tester	Quote: Originally Posted by Ripley Let's hope so. Well, if not, there is only one thing I can say to people that again hopped onto a closed-source framework for their work: fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. But it sure will be different now, right?

01-04-2016, 05:43 PM	#21
Marg Orbinaut	I also hope he will update sc4 for new BETA, as BETA is around for some time...

01-04-2016, 06:06 PM	#22
Donamy Beta Tester	I am speechless !!!!

01-06-2016, 08:27 PM	#23
perseus Addon Developer	Fantastic return expected.

01-06-2016, 09:21 PM	#24
n122vu Addon Developer	I....I..... MIND=BLOWN

05-09-2016, 11:01 AM	#25
jacquesmomo Addon Developer	Quote: Originally Posted by Marg I also hope he will update sc4 for new BETA, as BETA is around for some time... I think I know : as long as the beta is still a beta, Vinka will not make update for Spacecraft. He will wait the release of the final version of Orbiter 2016 (or... 2017,18...). Spacecraft (3 and 4) actually does not work with this beta of Orbiter... So let us be patient....

05-09-2016, 11:15 AM	#26
Face Beta Tester	Quote: Originally Posted by jacquesmomo I think I know : as long as the beta is still a beta, Vinka will not make update for Spacecraft. Agreed. I've mentioned this thought - and the possible consequences - already in the beta thread: http://orbiter-forum.com/showthread....&postcount=154

05-09-2016, 06:55 PM	#27
4throck Enthusiast !	Quote: Originally Posted by jacquesmomo Spacecraft (3 and 4) actually does not work with this beta of Orbiter... Just tried Deltaglider approach to KSC from the SC4 test scenarios. It works with the beta. It always worked for me!

05-09-2016, 07:19 PM	#28
Face Beta Tester	Quote: Originally Posted by 4throck Just tried Deltaglider approach to KSC from the SC4 test scenarios. It works with the beta. It always worked for me! It is no total miss, but essential things like e.g. payload jettison are not working correctly.

04-17-2017, 04:59 PM	#30
AssemblyLanguage Donator	Quote: Originally Posted by Face It is no total miss, but essential things like e.g. payload jettison are not working correctly. I've been working with several versions of the NASA 747 SCA and having trouble with "j" payload jettison. http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=36528 At least with this vehicle, setting the CONFIGURATION parameter in the scenario files to 1 (=in flight) instead of 2 (=Landed) will enable "j" jettison. ---------- Post added at 04:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:43 PM ---------- On Orbiter 2016, the jettisoned payload is instantly moved about 10m to the right of the host vehicle even with the SPEED and ROT_SPEED values set to zero.