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Old 02-13-2020, 11:25 AM   #1096
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So a couple of things.
So the new mfd for early. The later mfd have buttons along the bottom. These did not. So to use put the cursor over the label area.

and the only control by the MFD is brt.
So to turn them on/off

I tired to get the switch to move when you turn it of/off. But no luck. I can animate the switch but to tell it to move when the MFD is on/off is the issue.
So the CCTV's. They function like MFDs so you just select CAM and then it opens the camera MFD. BUT the payload camera locations and direction need to be loaded in the scn

Then the radiators.
This is what they are set at:
Code:
CONFIG_VERSION 2
; =============================================
MESH 2016SPACESHUTTLE\Columbia\ColumbiaORG2016H7
; ---------------------------------------------
MATERIAL 2
REFLECT 0.255000 0.255000 0.255000
ROUGHNESS 0.850000
; =============================================
MESH 2016SPACESHUTTLE\Columbia\Columbiamid2016g
; ---------------------------------------------
MATERIAL 2
REFLECT 0.255000 0.255000 0.255000
ROUGHNESS 0.850000
; =============================================
MESH 2016SPACESHUTTLE\Columbia\ColumbiaLATE2016h2
; ---------------------------------------------
MATERIAL 2
REFLECT 0.255000 0.255000 0.255000
ROUGHNESS 0.850000
; =============================================

and this:





SO on the aft of the early shuttle. What I did is made the aft mfd an ADI. It maybe is larger than real life. I couldn't find any good diagrams of it. Saw this though:


I guess for sts-6 for sure this rigid slide wire system.



so were the cameras gold foiled?

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Old 02-14-2020, 11:39 AM   #1097
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So like the 10 mfd version. From the left seat you control the left and center MFd:

and from the right seat you control the right and center

Cancelled 51e

and sts 41D
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Old 02-14-2020, 12:38 PM   #1098
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Those mfds look great. Orbiter displays don't look out of place at all!
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Old 02-16-2020, 03:14 AM   #1099
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My.. God.

Not only you are resurrecting the shuttle fleet but you are enhancing it with the Magellan, and other spacecraft, adding better GUI control for user friendliness and interior enhancement as well. Fantastic job.
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:25 PM   #1100
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Thanks. I am hving to go thru the scn and cfg to update with the meshes,....
Have run into an issue with this:

sts93 deployment of Chandra. But it is not seen?
Code:
IUS_ETG1_CHANDRA-X:CHANDRA-X\CHANDRA-X
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 535738.176 -4916027.018 4449247.703
  RVEL -7512.2812 -1639.4602 -906.0822
  AROT -129.340 15.430 -71.150
  ATTACHED 0:0,STS-93
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  RCS 1
  CTRL_SURFACE 1
  CONFIGURATION 1
  CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
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Old 02-19-2020, 11:37 AM   #1101
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Still working out bugs. Redid the Cargo bay Stowage Assembly (CBSA). I can make it a dll vessel like the pfr,.... so you could attach and then rotate on it. One could make it open but it would be empty. And the doors might hit the astronaut.

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Old 02-19-2020, 11:25 PM   #1102
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Currently working on VesselBuilder versions of the TDRS, Galileo, Chandra, Leasat, HS-376 satellites to simplify the reconfigurations they undergo during their post-deployment phases
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Old 02-20-2020, 11:39 AM   #1103
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So some eva images with the rigid slide wire



So one thing we have run into is on the GPC MFD from SF. When in the 3 mfd version when switching from 3d to 2d a CTD.

One thing I noticed is the functions are not carried over though.



So this is sts 6
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasacommons/20248756952

It looks like the payload camera are gold?
Looks like some were gold and some silver.
You can see the eva slidewire also

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Old 02-20-2020, 02:13 PM   #1104
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Id' say the silver might just be due to reflection...
Yellow (gold foil) + blue (earth) might give you white
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Old 02-20-2020, 02:35 PM   #1105
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I got this:
Some gold, some silver. hey found over time that it was just as reflective and much less expensive

So not going to do anything.
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Old 02-20-2020, 03:46 PM   #1106
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ENDEAVOUR BEAUTIFUL IMAGES HERE
http://www.collectspace.com/news/new...r-payload.html





And SRMS STS-100 and STS-135




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Old 02-20-2020, 04:05 PM   #1107
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Thanks. Really the only thing that needs fixing is the reflectiveness of the radiators
And minor adjustments to scns,....
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Old 02-20-2020, 04:33 PM   #1108
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THE STEERING POST DISPLAY SYSTEM
http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers..._avionique.htm



Originally, the Orbiters were equipped with the Multifunctional CRT Displays System or MCDS. In 1998, this system was replaced by the Multifunctional Electronics Display System MEDS. The MCDS is made up of three types of materials:
_ 4 electronic screens DEU (Display Electronics Unit),
_ 4 DU (Display Units) screens which include CRT screens
_ 3 control keypads communicating with the GPCs via bus network.
Three DU displays and two keyboards are mounted on the main panel, and one with a keyboard on the side workstation. Each of the 4 DEUs communicates with the data from the GPC on-board computers.

The DU screens are CRT electronic screens displaying alphanumeric characters, graphic symbols and arrows in fluorescent green. They are not able to represent a complex shape, being limited by lines or arrows. Each screen has a contrast and brightness setting. If one of the CRTs breaks down on the main panel, the crew can exchange it with that of the rear station to ensure the return of the mission.

When the MCDS is installed, indicators ensuring the need for the primary flight instrument necessary for manual flight or automatic control of the piloting system are arranged in front of the pilots and aft on the "hold" workstation. These indicators include the ADI (for flight direction), two HSI (horizon indicator), AMI (Mach indicator), AVVI (vertical speed indicator and altimeter), position of flight indicators, RCS system light and G meter.

The HUD head-up viewfinder is an optical system which makes it possible to visualize the reentry data during the reentry phase, the final approach to the runway. It uses the same data as the edge indicators and displays them on CRT screens to create an image which is projected through a series of lenses to combine on a window located in front of the portholes in direct view of the pilots. The system was not originally installed on the OV 101 and 102, but on the others from their construction. Columbia was fitted after STS 9.

Regarding the installation dates of the Multifunction Electronic Display System (MEDS):
http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers..._avionique.htm



In 1988 Rockwell embarked on a program to modernize the Orbiters' cockpit. At that time, it naturally came to mind to use the "glass cockpit" like commercial aircraft. This system allows data to be displayed on color screens to replace conventional indicators. In 1992, this program was perfected for its use, thus born the Multifunction Electronic Display System MEDS.

MEDS uses 11 multi-function MDU color screens, 4 so-called IDP (Integrated Display Processors) screens and 4 ADC analog-digital converters per vehicle. 9 screens are installed in front of the pilots to replace the three CRT screens and indicators. The other two are installed in the aft cockpit. The MDU screens are based on those fitted to B777 aircraft modified to use an LCD produced in the USA. They are slightly larger than the old ones but provide better lateral vision, have better definition with 48 colors (16 tones of each primary).

The MEDS program was originally spread over two phases, one at the KSC with the replacement of the three classic screens with three MDUs, then during the OMPDs, the indicators would be replaced by three MDUs. The installation of the MEDS slightly increases the mass of the Orbiters by 250 kg, the consumption and the heat dissipation being equivalent (1600 W).

Atlantis is the first Orbiter to receive MEDS in 1998 during its OMPD. He flew for the first time in May 2000 on STS 98.
Columbia received his MEDS in 2000.
Discovery received it in 2002-2003 during his OMPD 3.
And Endeavour received it in 2004-2005. Note that these last two OMPD take place at the KSC.

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Old 02-20-2020, 10:27 PM   #1109
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Thanks. But for now we will have 3 crt and 10 MFD. I guess if someone want to make different sts versions they could.

---------- Post added at 11:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:55 AM ----------

So:
Originally, the Orbiters were equipped with the Multifunctional CRT Displays System or MCDS. In 1998, this system was replaced by the Multifunctional Electronics Display System MEDS. The MCDS is made up of three types of equipment:
_ 4 electronic screens DEU (Display Electronics Unit),
_ 4 screens DU (Display Units) which include CRT screens
_ 3 control keypads communicating with the GPCs by bus network.
Three DU displays and two keyboards are mounted on the main panel, and one with a keyboard on the side workstation. Each of the 4 DEUs communicates with the data from the GPC on-board computers.

The DU screens are CRT electronic screens displaying alphanumeric characters, graphic symbols and arrows in fluorescent green. They are not able to represent a complex shape, being limited by lines or arrows. Each screen has a contrast and brightness setting. If one of the CRTs breaks down on the main panel, the crew can exchange it with that of the rear station to ensure the return of the mission.

We have the 3 CRT on the front. The side one is just a texture.

Oh so with the 3 crt version there are 2.
Configuration of instrument panels in the cockpit of all Orbiters except OV 102 until 1998. The latter will be modernized after STS 9 and equipped like the other Orbiter with the HUD head-up display.

No HUD and with HUD. THis is doable just change the VC mesh. Not sure if we want this maybe a later version?

And then the 9 front MFd version:
The MEDS program was originally spread over two phases, one at the KSC with the replacement of the three classic screens with three MDUs, then during the OMPDs, the indicators would be replaced by three MDUs. The installation of the MEDS slightly increases the mass of the Orbiters by 250 kg, the consumption and the heat dissipation being equivalent (1600 W). Atlantis is the first Orbiter to receive MEDS in 1998 during its OMPD. He flew for the first time in May 2000 on STS 98. Columbia received his MEDS in 2000, Discovery received it in 2002-2003 during his OMPD 3 and Endeavor received it in 2004-2005. Note that these last two OMPD take place at the KSC.

I might need to go back and redo a scenario or two?

---------- Post added at 04:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 AM ----------

sts 6 eva


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Old 02-20-2020, 11:10 PM   #1110
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All orbiters had MCDS up until STS-101 which is when Atlantis debuted the new MEDS which was just the first phase of the much larger Cockpit Avionics Upgrade (CAU) project. The MEDS is much more capable than what it was used for as the CAU project got scrapped after the Columbia accident along with many other upgrades as it was itself part of the overall Space Shuttle Upgrades Program. Here's a document on it: https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/293271main_...ess_forum9.pdf

The HUDs for the CDR and PLT were introduced with Challenger on STS-6 and Columbia got retrofitted with them during her downtime between STS-9 and STS-61C. Atlantis, Discovery and Endeavour had them as production features.
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