Question Using SF's RMS with Thorton's ISS

[Wally]

I've been doing STS-88 using Thorton's ISS and his supplied scenarios for Shuttle Fleet. I always find operating the RMS being tedious, so I was glad when I found in the supplied manual the values for SY, SP, EP, WP, WY, WR for parsing them to TGT of the SRM and doing them in an automatic sequence. However, only the STS-88 scenario has these values defined.

Is there a way to calculate them for other payloads/modules, in future scenarios? Can they be calculated automatically, or just empirical, by manual RMS operations?

 

[IronRain]

Yeah, I as wondering the same... I've searched but didn't find anything...

 

[David413]

Is there a way to calculate them for other payloads/modules, in future scenarios? Can they be calculated automatically, or just empirical, by manual RMS operations?

Depending on the payload, if it is historical you can check NASA sites for the flight specific PDRS OPS C/L supplements. There you will find values for the arm that will at least get you close to the grapple points. Otherwise, it's trial and error (which is why I created the ability to store arm locations, then I only have to find the values once.)

 

[Wally]

Alright, I've switched to STS-131 from the latest Shuttle Fleet plus Expansion and I have the actual PDRS Operations Checklist printed and in front of me. I'm trying to get the MPLM attached to ISS. As I understand from the checklist, SSRMS is used for this task, since I keep seeing reference to it. But in the tables, I have 6 coordinates, for SY, SP, EP, WP, WY and WR, but not for SR. The SSRMS from ISS requires to enter a 7 values for SR too. How can this be solved?
The shuttle's RMS isn't used for this task, at all?

 

[David413]

Alright, I've switched to STS-131 from the latest Shuttle Fleet plus Expansion and I have the actual PDRS Operations Checklist printed and in front of me. I'm trying to get the MPLM attached to ISS. As I understand from the checklist, SSRMS is used for this task, since I keep seeing reference to it. But in the tables, I have 6 coordinates, for SY, SP, EP, WP, WY and WR, but not for SR. The SSRMS from ISS requires to enter a 7 values for SR too. How can this be solved?
The shuttle's RMS isn't used for this task, at all?

I'm a little confused here. Which PDRS checklist are you refering to (a link would be best). Second, which arm are you trying to use? The shuttle arm (SRMS) or the station arm (SSRMS) which is not what this thread started out asking about. For STS-131, the station arm was used to unberth and berth the MPLM, not the shuttle arm. The checklist values for the station arm do not work with the ISS fleet station arm (I can't speak for Thorton's station arm).

Need more info here to help you...

 

[Wally]

I am using this checklist. I am trying to use the station arm from ISS Fleet, not Thorton's. In the checklist I have six parameters for the arm movement, but the station arm from ISS Fleet requires seven.
I didn't want to start out a new thread, since the issue is similar to this one.

 

[David413]

I am using this checklist. I am trying to use the station arm from ISS Fleet, not Thorton's. In the checklist I have six parameters for the arm movement, but the station arm from ISS Fleet requires seven.
I didn't want to start out a new thread, since the issue is similar to this one.

The checklist you posted the link to is for the SHUTTLE arm, not for use with the STATION arm. The shuttle arm wasn't used with the MPLM on STS-131. That is why there are only 6 parameters. You cannot use this checklist with the station arm. This checklist is for the shuttle arm.

 

[Wally]

Is the Station's PDRS checklist made available somewhere?

 

[David413]

Is the Station's PDRS checklist made available somewhere?

Yes, in the L2 section of NASASpaceflight.com (that's the subscription section; you have to pay for it...), however, even with those checklists, as I mentioned earlier:

"The checklist values for the station arm do not work with the ISS fleet station arm (I can't speak for Thorton's station arm)."

 

[Wally]

Yes, in the L2 section of NASASpaceflight.com (that's the subscription section; you have to pay for it...), however, even with those checklists, as I mentioned earlier:

"The checklist values for the station arm do not work with the ISS fleet station arm (I can't speak for Thorton's station arm)."

Yes, I know it will not work, as you said previously, I was just curious where I cand find it, to look over it, since it wasn't available in the same place I found the above mentioned checklist. Thanks for the info.

 

[David413]

Yes, I know it will not work, as you said previously, I was just curious where I cand find it, to look over it, since it wasn't available in the same place I found the above mentioned checklist. Thanks for the info.

Sorry I misunderstood you. Good luck...

 

[Wally]

Thanks