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ADSWNJ · 01-14-2012, 11:04 PM

Yeah Tex- confirmed fuel bug on the CTV on Flight 13. For some reason the CTRL+7 does not initialize the fuel. Thanks for the fix line, though I think it's too much fuel for the little CTV, because after a good amount of thrusting to do the docking, I was still left with 0.999153 !!

**Tex** · 01-14-2012, 11:56 PM

You can always make it more challenging and jettison Ariane5 sooner!

ADSWNJ · 01-15-2012, 03:10 AM

Hmm - yes. I could have deliberately burnt down to min fuel I guess. In fact, because the station orbit is elliptical, I could have spend a bunch more time to match my orbit perfectly before docking, to stop it drifting around on final approach!

**Tex** · 02-25-2012, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosammy

Everything done with some minor problems:

It looks like the module in the payload bay was rotated by 180°. The grappling point was facing the payload bay floor, I had to edit the scenario to attach it to the RMS.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention; an over sight on my part. I didn't actually test pulling it out of the shuttle with the shuttle RMS which can't grapple anywhere like URMS. I'll fix that in the next package.

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosammy

The URMS seems to be unable to correctly grapple in the D3D9 client. Should be written into the manual for other D3D9 users.

Launch heading seems to be wrong, again this might be a D3D9 or Shuttle Fleet problem. I'll take a look at that.

OFSS-III is not tested or supported for the D3D9 client. The doc doesn't specifically state this, but I don't use D3D9 for OFSS flights myself, so it's clearly never been tested. The launch heading was set based on what the launch MFD said, so I'm not sure how else to figure that for D3D9. I'm able to get Rinc near 0 with that heading, however it does require some minor adjustments to the heading mid-way through the launch, which I've always had to do with any shuttle launch.

**Cras** · 02-28-2012, 03:57 AM

I tend to find that you cannot use Launch MFDs heading with Shuttle Fleet. You need to off set it to the north a bit. It is the roll to heads up that messes it all up. But I should add I too fly with D3D9, so that may have something to do with it. As for the modules, I haved used pretty much all of them on my own station, and they all seem to work well in D3D9.

Some little things may need to be accounted for when using D3D9, but on the whole, pretty much everything works with it.

**Tex** · 04-17-2012, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cras

flight 16 is done.

fyi, for Shuttle Fleet, when using the modern launch profile, you cannot launch on the heading supplied by Launch MFD, it needs to be offset because the rolls to head up attitude will throw it off, and you end up in an orbit that has an Rinc that is quite high compared to the station, and it is very hard to get on the right plane and not use up all the OMS fuel.

You can adjust your heading during the launch before MECO to get Rinc on 0. Use #1 and #3 on the numpad. I find it more enjoyable than just sitting there while the autopilot does everything.

Pipcard · 07-11-2012, 02:49 AM

About this "docking tips" thing: wouldn't it be simpler to do a killrot with OFSS-Core?

**Cras** · 07-11-2012, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipcard

About this "docking tips" thing: wouldn't it be simpler to do a killrot with OFSS-Core?

depends on how realistic you wanna approach the station.

Pipcard · 07-11-2012, 03:41 AM

Well, I'm not going to be very realistic during rendezvous and approach anyways.

Samuel Edwards · 07-11-2012, 03:56 AM

Dude, it's a sim. It's supposed to be done realistically.!

Pipcard · 07-11-2012, 04:06 AM

Another thing, about berthing modules to the station with the RMS: is it okay if the longitudinal rotation (red or white triangle in docking MFD) of the module is misaligned?

Samuel Edwards · 07-11-2012, 04:07 AM

No, it most be aligned appropriately for it to capture.

**Cras** · 07-11-2012, 04:09 AM

why not try and do it right?

Pipcard · 07-11-2012, 04:20 AM

I did a practice run with the MPLM berthing in mission 16. There was a Shuttle RMS to Station SRMS (URMS) handover. I rotated the MPLM with the URMS, ungrappled, and then regrappled the other grapple fixture. I managed to berth it, and the orientation was good enough.

---------- Post added at 09:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:12 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel Edwards

Dude, it's a sim. It's supposed to be done realistically.!

What I mean is that I'm not going to do all the RPM/TORVA stuff during approach, and I'm not going to enable things such as nonspherical gravity sources.

**Cras** · 07-11-2012, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipcard

What I mean is that I'm not going to do all the RPM/TORVA stuff during approach, and I'm not going to enable things such as nonspherical gravity sources.

Why not? TORVA is one of my favorite things to do in Orbiter. Give it a shot. What have you got to loose?

07-11-2012, 04:20 AM	#29
Pipcard ♪ Miku fan ♪	I did a practice run with the MPLM berthing in mission 16. There was a Shuttle RMS to Station SRMS (URMS) handover. I rotated the MPLM with the URMS, ungrappled, and then regrappled the other grapple fixture. I managed to berth it, and the orientation was good enough. ---------- Post added at 09:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:12 PM ---------- Quote: Originally Posted by Samuel Edwards Dude, it's a sim. It's supposed to be done realistically.! What I mean is that I'm not going to do all the RPM/TORVA stuff during approach, and I'm not going to enable things such as nonspherical gravity sources. Last edited by Pipcard; 07-11-2012 at 04:23 AM.

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01-14-2012, 11:04 PM	#16
ADSWNJ Scientist	Yeah Tex- confirmed fuel bug on the CTV on Flight 13. For some reason the CTRL+7 does not initialize the fuel. Thanks for the fix line, though I think it's too much fuel for the little CTV, because after a good amount of thrusting to do the docking, I was still left with 0.999153 !!

01-14-2012, 11:56 PM	#17
Tex O-F Administrator	You can always make it more challenging and jettison Ariane5 sooner!

01-15-2012, 03:10 AM	#18
ADSWNJ Scientist	Hmm - yes. I could have deliberately burnt down to min fuel I guess. In fact, because the station orbit is elliptical, I could have spend a bunch more time to match my orbit perfectly before docking, to stop it drifting around on final approach!

02-25-2012, 09:30 PM	#19
Tex O-F Administrator	Quote: Originally Posted by astrosammy Everything done with some minor problems: It looks like the module in the payload bay was rotated by 180°. The grappling point was facing the payload bay floor, I had to edit the scenario to attach it to the RMS. Thanks for bringing that to my attention; an over sight on my part. I didn't actually test pulling it out of the shuttle with the shuttle RMS which can't grapple anywhere like URMS. I'll fix that in the next package. Quote: Originally Posted by astrosammy The URMS seems to be unable to correctly grapple in the D3D9 client. Should be written into the manual for other D3D9 users. Launch heading seems to be wrong, again this might be a D3D9 or Shuttle Fleet problem. I'll take a look at that. OFSS-III is not tested or supported for the D3D9 client. The doc doesn't specifically state this, but I don't use D3D9 for OFSS flights myself, so it's clearly never been tested. The launch heading was set based on what the launch MFD said, so I'm not sure how else to figure that for D3D9. I'm able to get Rinc near 0 with that heading, however it does require some minor adjustments to the heading mid-way through the launch, which I've always had to do with any shuttle launch.

02-28-2012, 03:57 AM	#20
Cras Spring of Life!	I tend to find that you cannot use Launch MFDs heading with Shuttle Fleet. You need to off set it to the north a bit. It is the roll to heads up that messes it all up. But I should add I too fly with D3D9, so that may have something to do with it. As for the modules, I haved used pretty much all of them on my own station, and they all seem to work well in D3D9. Some little things may need to be accounted for when using D3D9, but on the whole, pretty much everything works with it.

04-17-2012, 11:09 PM	#21
Tex O-F Administrator	Quote: Originally Posted by Cras flight 16 is done. fyi, for Shuttle Fleet, when using the modern launch profile, you cannot launch on the heading supplied by Launch MFD, it needs to be offset because the rolls to head up attitude will throw it off, and you end up in an orbit that has an Rinc that is quite high compared to the station, and it is very hard to get on the right plane and not use up all the OMS fuel. You can adjust your heading during the launch before MECO to get Rinc on 0. Use #1 and #3 on the numpad. I find it more enjoyable than just sitting there while the autopilot does everything.

07-11-2012, 02:49 AM	#22
Pipcard ♪ Miku fan ♪	About this "docking tips" thing: wouldn't it be simpler to do a killrot with OFSS-Core?

07-11-2012, 03:20 AM	#23
Cras Spring of Life!	Quote: Originally Posted by Pipcard About this "docking tips" thing: wouldn't it be simpler to do a killrot with OFSS-Core? depends on how realistic you wanna approach the station.

07-11-2012, 03:41 AM	#24
Pipcard ♪ Miku fan ♪	Well, I'm not going to be very realistic during rendezvous and approach anyways.

07-11-2012, 03:56 AM	#25
Samuel Edwards HASSESA Founder	Dude, it's a sim. It's supposed to be done realistically.!

07-11-2012, 04:06 AM	#26
Pipcard ♪ Miku fan ♪	Another thing, about berthing modules to the station with the RMS: is it okay if the longitudinal rotation (red or white triangle in docking MFD) of the module is misaligned?

07-11-2012, 04:07 AM	#27
Samuel Edwards HASSESA Founder	No, it most be aligned appropriately for it to capture.

07-11-2012, 04:09 AM	#28
Cras Spring of Life!	why not try and do it right?

07-11-2012, 04:28 AM	#30
Cras Spring of Life!	Quote: Originally Posted by Pipcard What I mean is that I'm not going to do all the RPM/TORVA stuff during approach, and I'm not going to enable things such as nonspherical gravity sources. Why not? TORVA is one of my favorite things to do in Orbiter. Give it a shot. What have you got to loose?