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**Hlynkacg** · 05-09-2011, 04:19 PM

I may be jumping the gun here but If I wanted to mesh up some payloads what dimensions am I limited to?

Moach · 05-09-2011, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hlynkacg

I may be jumping the gun here but If I wanted to mesh up some payloads what dimensions am I limited to?

that'd be 4.2 x 15.5 x 3.4 meters...

it's slightly smaller than the shuttle's, but the cost/kg ratio is unbelievably more on the happy side

jthill · 05-09-2011, 05:16 PM

it's really spotty on the mfd-direction shift keys. some keys are delivered to the left mfd but not the right, and some shifted keys trigger the same action as the unshifted ones but are also passed to mfds so they react too.

**Izack** · 05-09-2011, 05:32 PM

Forgot to report the key intercept problems earlier. I kept finding my canards open at hypersonic speeds because N opens the canards regardless of what modifiers are placed on it, and shift+N cycles through songs in Orbitersound's MFD. That could result in more than a few flaming deaths farther down the development road, when opening the canards at mach 18 causes the vehicle to disintegrate...

Moach · 05-09-2011, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izack

Forgot to report the key intercept problems earlier. I kept finding my canards open at hypersonic speeds because N opens the canards regardless of what modifiers are placed on it, and shift+N cycles through songs in Orbitersound's MFD. That could result in more than a few flaming deaths farther down the development road, when opening the canards at mach 18 causes the vehicle to disintegrate...

good call - i hadn't thought of that

i'll see about those MFD keys... i might have to figure something out so you can use keyboard shortcuts on all the screens... by default, Orbiter only directs them to the right and left ones via the shift keys - i'll see if i can come up with a way to address the others as well

**Grover** · 05-09-2011, 06:04 PM

i suppose ALT and CTRL are taken? that doesnt leave many options.

i dont mind anyway, i prefer to use the actual buttons mostly, and if i REALLY need to use the keyboard, i just put that one in the left, its never failed me yet

laters!

**Hlynkacg** · 05-09-2011, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moach

that'd be 4.2 x 15.5 x 3.4 meters...

it's slightly smaller than the shuttle's, but the cost/kg ratio is unbelievably more on the happy side

Thats 4.2m wide and 3.4 tall correct?

In otherwords If I confine myself to a 15m long cylinder 3.4m diameter I should be ok correct?

Also, what would be the max payload mass for launch or return?

Moach · 05-09-2011, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hlynkacg

Thats 4.2m wide and 3.4 tall correct?

In otherwords If I confine myself to a 15m long cylinder 3.4m diameter I should be ok correct?

Also, what would be the max payload mass for launch or return?

correct

not sure about mass... that's one for our brave test pilots to fogure out

Ark · 05-09-2011, 06:28 PM

Sort of on that topic, what is the optimal amount of fuel to have left after reaching orbit? I've learned the "ideal" reserve with the XRs due to experience, but what's a good number to shoot for in learning to fly this thing?

jthill · 05-09-2011, 06:32 PM

It's a simple oversight, anyone could make it. It just needs fixing, that's all. It doesn't look intentional.

Put

Code:

    if ( KEYMOD_SHIFT(kstate) ) return 0;

up front in clbkConsumeBufferedKey and clbkConsumeDirectKey after any logging or whathaveyou. It's that easy.

**Izack** · 05-09-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jthill

It's a simple oversight, anyone could make it. It just needs fixing, that's all. It doesn't look intentional.

Put

Code:

    if ( KEYMOD_SHIFT(kstate) ) return 0;

up front in clbkConsumeBufferedKey and clbkConsumeDirectKey after any logging or whathaveyou. It's that easy.

Beaten to the punch again! Was about to say that.

jthill · 05-09-2011, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moach

i'll see if i can come up with a way to address the others as well

yeah, I think that's not going to work. the lshift-rshift convention goes back to the start afaict and extending it would mean snarfing keys other components use. Two MFD's worth of keyboard controls is good.

TerraMimic · 05-09-2011, 09:58 PM

Not sure if this has already been addressed. I installed the addon, and loaded up the scenario, and got ... nothing. the scenario loads, but the ship is not there. I have the orbiter default cockpit, and it indicates no fuel. When I switch to external view, there is nothing there, no mesh, no textures, but the spacecraft is listed in the switch craft list. Does anybody know what's going on?

**Grover** · 05-10-2011, 06:57 AM

This usually means you havent installed it properly, try it again and pay close attention to the readme

**Izack** · 05-10-2011, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerraMimic

Not sure if this has already been addressed. I installed the addon, and loaded up the scenario, and got ... nothing. the scenario loads, but the ship is not there. I have the orbiter default cockpit, and it indicates no fuel. When I switch to external view, there is nothing there, no mesh, no textures, but the spacecraft is listed in the switch craft list. Does anybody know what's going on?

What version of Orbiter are you using?

05-09-2011, 06:32 PM	#655
jthill Orbinaut	It's a simple oversight, anyone could make it. It just needs fixing, that's all. It doesn't look intentional. Put Code: if ( KEYMOD_SHIFT(kstate) ) return 0; up front in clbkConsumeBufferedKey and clbkConsumeDirectKey after any logging or whathaveyou. It's that easy.

05-09-2011, 06:47 PM	#656
Izack Non sequitur	Quote: Originally Posted by jthill It's a simple oversight, anyone could make it. It just needs fixing, that's all. It doesn't look intentional. Put Code: if ( KEYMOD_SHIFT(kstate) ) return 0; up front in clbkConsumeBufferedKey and clbkConsumeDirectKey after any logging or whathaveyou. It's that easy. Beaten to the punch again! Was about to say that.

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05-09-2011, 04:19 PM	#646
Hlynkacg Aspiring rocket scientist	I may be jumping the gun here but If I wanted to mesh up some payloads what dimensions am I limited to?

05-09-2011, 04:50 PM	#647
Moach Crazy dude with a rocket	Quote: Originally Posted by Hlynkacg I may be jumping the gun here but If I wanted to mesh up some payloads what dimensions am I limited to? that'd be 4.2 x 15.5 x 3.4 meters... it's slightly smaller than the shuttle's, but the cost/kg ratio is unbelievably more on the happy side

05-09-2011, 05:16 PM	#648
jthill Orbinaut	it's really spotty on the mfd-direction shift keys. some keys are delivered to the left mfd but not the right, and some shifted keys trigger the same action as the unshifted ones but are also passed to mfds so they react too.

05-09-2011, 05:32 PM	#649
Izack Non sequitur	Forgot to report the key intercept problems earlier. I kept finding my canards open at hypersonic speeds because N opens the canards regardless of what modifiers are placed on it, and shift+N cycles through songs in Orbitersound's MFD. That could result in more than a few flaming deaths farther down the development road, when opening the canards at mach 18 causes the vehicle to disintegrate...

05-09-2011, 06:01 PM	#650
Moach Crazy dude with a rocket	Quote: Originally Posted by Izack Forgot to report the key intercept problems earlier. I kept finding my canards open at hypersonic speeds because N opens the canards regardless of what modifiers are placed on it, and shift+N cycles through songs in Orbitersound's MFD. That could result in more than a few flaming deaths farther down the development road, when opening the canards at mach 18 causes the vehicle to disintegrate... good call - i hadn't thought of that i'll see about those MFD keys... i might have to figure something out so you can use keyboard shortcuts on all the screens... by default, Orbiter only directs them to the right and left ones via the shift keys - i'll see if i can come up with a way to address the others as well

05-09-2011, 06:04 PM	#651
Grover Saturn V Misfire	i suppose ALT and CTRL are taken? that doesnt leave many options. i dont mind anyway, i prefer to use the actual buttons mostly, and if i REALLY need to use the keyboard, i just put that one in the left, its never failed me yet laters!

05-09-2011, 06:14 PM	#652
Hlynkacg Aspiring rocket scientist	Quote: Originally Posted by Moach that'd be 4.2 x 15.5 x 3.4 meters... it's slightly smaller than the shuttle's, but the cost/kg ratio is unbelievably more on the happy side Thats 4.2m wide and 3.4 tall correct? In otherwords If I confine myself to a 15m long cylinder 3.4m diameter I should be ok correct? Also, what would be the max payload mass for launch or return?

05-09-2011, 06:16 PM	#653
Moach Crazy dude with a rocket	Quote: Originally Posted by Hlynkacg Thats 4.2m wide and 3.4 tall correct? In otherwords If I confine myself to a 15m long cylinder 3.4m diameter I should be ok correct? Also, what would be the max payload mass for launch or return? correct not sure about mass... that's one for our brave test pilots to fogure out

05-09-2011, 06:28 PM	#654
Ark Orbinaut	Sort of on that topic, what is the optimal amount of fuel to have left after reaching orbit? I've learned the "ideal" reserve with the XRs due to experience, but what's a good number to shoot for in learning to fly this thing?

05-09-2011, 08:13 PM	#657
jthill Orbinaut	Quote: Originally Posted by Moach i'll see if i can come up with a way to address the others as well yeah, I think that's not going to work. the lshift-rshift convention goes back to the start afaict and extending it would mean snarfing keys other components use. Two MFD's worth of keyboard controls is good.

05-09-2011, 09:58 PM	#658
TerraMimic Orbinaut	Not sure if this has already been addressed. I installed the addon, and loaded up the scenario, and got ... nothing. the scenario loads, but the ship is not there. I have the orbiter default cockpit, and it indicates no fuel. When I switch to external view, there is nothing there, no mesh, no textures, but the spacecraft is listed in the switch craft list. Does anybody know what's going on?

05-10-2011, 06:57 AM	#659
Grover Saturn V Misfire	This usually means you havent installed it properly, try it again and pay close attention to the readme

05-10-2011, 10:20 AM	#660
Izack Non sequitur	Quote: Originally Posted by TerraMimic Not sure if this has already been addressed. I installed the addon, and loaded up the scenario, and got ... nothing. the scenario loads, but the ship is not there. I have the orbiter default cockpit, and it indicates no fuel. When I switch to external view, there is nothing there, no mesh, no textures, but the spacecraft is listed in the switch craft list. Does anybody know what's going on? What version of Orbiter are you using?