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**Notebook** · 05-26-2009, 07:57 PM

Not long now:-

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars500/SEM3VX0OWUF_0.html

N.

**SiberianTiger** · 06-10-2009, 09:47 AM

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2916...43949&p=1&fr=0

Yesterday, on June 9, the 105 days long Mars flight simulation experiment has moved on to the third phase, which simulates a Mars orbit stay. During this phase, the crew is left only one channel of communication with the external world, which is sending and receiving emails, with mandatory 40 minutes delay between sending a message out and getting a reply. Also, the crew is now of full control over the life support system and other systems of the "space ship".

Up to now, the crew members have completed 70 scientific experiments according to the planned schedule. They have pointed to certain things that will have to be improved before starting the final, 520 days long experiment.

TMac3000 · 06-10-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwumpe

"It is mine and I can wash it as fast as I want, Sir!"

That's...not...right.

As far as the sexual aspect, I think the point is not that people need to have sex (celibacy is not detrimental to your health), but that if you have a mixed gender crew, they probably are going to have sex. The "urge" is not impossible to resist for a long period of time, but it is very difficult, and among people some of whose cultural/religious backgrounds don't place any taboo on premarital/extramarital sex, you can expect some boffin' here and there.

As for life in space, I can only say what others have already said. We keep astonauts aboard ISS for more than enough time to reach Mars. The trick is going to be carrying the necessary supplies in sufficient volume without making the ship too massive. And the biggest obstacle is, as always, $$$.

**tblaxland** · 06-10-2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiberianTiger

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Looks spookily like a scene from the Big Brother TV show...

**tl8** · 06-10-2009, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tblaxland

Looks spookily like a scene from the Big Brother TV show...

Haven't you heard, they are going to fund the mission by votes. Every week you can vote someone off the space craft, Only the most popular walks on Mars

**Orbinaut Pete** · 07-14-2009, 05:01 PM

The 105 day Mars500 ends:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8150385.stm

**SiberianTiger** · 07-15-2009, 04:44 PM

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE56D41Q20090714

Six end simulated Mars mission isolation

Quote:

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Four Russians, a Frenchman and a German ended a simulated 105-day space trip in Moscow on Tuesday designed to test their responses in the kind of isolated surroundings they would experience in a manned mission to Mars.

Stepping out of their sealed compartments in a Moscow scientific complex, the crew members were ending one test just as space agencies step up preparations for a longer 520-day isolation experiment expected to start next year.

The six men were monitored constantly as they responded to physical tests in cramped conditions designed to better understand how humans would cope on a Mars mission, that would take at least 500 days.

All six smiled, waved and put their arms around each other as they emerged into the first sunlight they had seen since March 31 last, giving no indication that any personal animosities developed in the quarantined environment.

Ark · 07-15-2009, 05:05 PM

That's encouraging, they managed to avoid killing anyone.

**SiberianTiger** · 11-27-2009, 07:17 AM

The diary of Oliver Knickel and Cyrille Fournier, the European participants of the 105 days long preliminary mission of Mars-500 experiment (click on the links at right to read next chapters):
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars500/SEMQ50KTYRF_0.html

The final, 500 days long session is to begin in March, 2009. Application taking from volunteers is still open!

**tblaxland** · 11-27-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiberianTiger

The final, 500 days long session is to begin in March, 2009.

2010?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiberianTiger

Application taking from volunteers is still open!

You know, if I was still single I might do it. I think I would miss the broadband internet though...

**SiberianTiger** · 11-27-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tblaxland

2010?

Yes, 2010, certainly. My typo.

ijuin · 12-02-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

I have some thoughts

As I understand 500+ day mars mission time comes from assumption that chemical propulsion is going to be used. However realistically Mars mission are not going to happen before year 2025. - 2030. By that time there should be much better propulsion systems built and already tested in space. For example VASIMIR powered spacecraft could make Earth - Mars trip in 2 - 3 months. That would allow total mission time to be less than a year assuming no more than 6 month time spent on Mars surface. Also a lot more useful equipment could be carried with VASIMIR than with chemical rocket. Not to mention much less time spent in zero G and less exposure time to cosmic radiation reducing problems with crew health.

We could build a VASIMR propelled spacecraft by 2020 if it weren't for the political blocks against launching nuclear reactors into space.

Suzy · 12-24-2009, 01:00 AM

There was a post at the Mars-500 blog (in Russian) that a Chinese volunteer might be included in Mars-500.

From 15 to 18 December 2009 a meeting was held between IBMP specialists and Chinese Cosmonauts Training Center (KTSPK). The meeting was devoted to discussing issues related to the possible participation of Chinese experts in the project "Mars-500". As a result of the meeting was agreed on the possibility of inclusion in the scientific program of the 520-day isolation in the framework of the project "Mars-500" three scientific methods. In addition, discussed the possibility of inclusion in the crew of a Chinese volunteer.

Suzy · 02-25-2010, 11:53 PM

Mars-500 finalists named (via):

44-year-old Boris Yegorov
30-year-old Andrei Zhirnov
32-year-old Alexander Sukhov
37-year-old Mikhail Sidelnikov
38-year-old Alexei Sitev

Two Russian doctors:

surgeon Sukhrob Kamolov, 32
general practitioner Alexander Smolevsky, 33

Foreign candidates:

34-year-old Archanmael Gaillard from France
Belgian Jerome Clevers, 30
Italian Diego Urbina, 27
27-year-old Wang Yue from China

**Enjo** · 02-26-2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3PO

You guys should try a trip on a fishing boat.

AHAHAHAH Bang on, mate! I know what you are saying. Last time I had a trip on sailing boats with some people whom I didn't know earlier, they all seemed kind and all that, but after we all started drinking and not getting enough sleep, some people started to hate each other, some "equal popularity groups" were formed and I was happy that it ended sooner than 105 days :D Never ever!

However you could tell who's going to like whom in just the first day, hence it's not that hard to eliminate total emotional fools in a first selection.

02-25-2010, 11:53 PM	#44
Suzy Orbinaut	Mars-500 finalists named (via): 44-year-old Boris Yegorov 30-year-old Andrei Zhirnov 32-year-old Alexander Sukhov 37-year-old Mikhail Sidelnikov 38-year-old Alexei Sitev Two Russian doctors: surgeon Sukhrob Kamolov, 32 general practitioner Alexander Smolevsky, 33 Foreign candidates: 34-year-old Archanmael Gaillard from France Belgian Jerome Clevers, 30 Italian Diego Urbina, 27 27-year-old Wang Yue from China

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05-26-2009, 07:57 PM	#31
Notebook Orbinaut	Not long now:- http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars500/SEM3VX0OWUF_0.html N.

06-10-2009, 09:47 AM	#32
SiberianTiger News Sifter	http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2916...43949&p=1&fr=0 Yesterday, on June 9, the 105 days long Mars flight simulation experiment has moved on to the third phase, which simulates a Mars orbit stay. During this phase, the crew is left only one channel of communication with the external world, which is sending and receiving emails, with mandatory 40 minutes delay between sending a message out and getting a reply. Also, the crew is now of full control over the life support system and other systems of the "space ship". Up to now, the crew members have completed 70 scientific experiments according to the planned schedule. They have pointed to certain things that will have to be improved before starting the final, 520 days long experiment.

06-10-2009, 02:55 PM	#33
TMac3000 CEO and Founder: Real Time Inc	Quote: Originally Posted by Urwumpe "It is mine and I can wash it as fast as I want, Sir!" That's...not...right. As far as the sexual aspect, I think the point is not that people need to have sex (celibacy is not detrimental to your health), but that if you have a mixed gender crew, they probably are going to have sex. The "urge" is not impossible to resist for a long period of time, but it is very difficult, and among people some of whose cultural/religious backgrounds don't place any taboo on premarital/extramarital sex, you can expect some boffin' here and there. As for life in space, I can only say what others have already said. We keep astonauts aboard ISS for more than enough time to reach Mars. The trick is going to be carrying the necessary supplies in sufficient volume without making the ship too massive. And the biggest obstacle is, as always, $$$.

06-10-2009, 10:40 PM	#34
tblaxland Webmaster	Quote: Originally Posted by SiberianTiger {image} Looks spookily like a scene from the Big Brother TV show...

06-10-2009, 10:53 PM	#35
tl8 Moderator	Quote: Originally Posted by tblaxland Looks spookily like a scene from the Big Brother TV show... Haven't you heard, they are going to fund the mission by votes. Every week you can vote someone off the space craft, Only the most popular walks on Mars

07-14-2009, 05:01 PM	#36
Orbinaut Pete ISSU Project Manager	The 105 day Mars500 ends: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8150385.stm

07-15-2009, 04:44 PM	#37
SiberianTiger News Sifter	http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE56D41Q20090714 Six end simulated Mars mission isolation Quote: MOSCOW (Reuters) - Four Russians, a Frenchman and a German ended a simulated 105-day space trip in Moscow on Tuesday designed to test their responses in the kind of isolated surroundings they would experience in a manned mission to Mars. Stepping out of their sealed compartments in a Moscow scientific complex, the crew members were ending one test just as space agencies step up preparations for a longer 520-day isolation experiment expected to start next year. The six men were monitored constantly as they responded to physical tests in cramped conditions designed to better understand how humans would cope on a Mars mission, that would take at least 500 days. All six smiled, waved and put their arms around each other as they emerged into the first sunlight they had seen since March 31 last, giving no indication that any personal animosities developed in the quarantined environment.

07-15-2009, 05:05 PM	#38
Ark Orbinaut	That's encouraging, they managed to avoid killing anyone.

11-27-2009, 07:17 AM	#39
SiberianTiger News Sifter	The diary of Oliver Knickel and Cyrille Fournier, the European participants of the 105 days long preliminary mission of Mars-500 experiment (click on the links at right to read next chapters): http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars500/SEMQ50KTYRF_0.html The final, 500 days long session is to begin in March, 2009. Application taking from volunteers is still open!

11-27-2009, 09:15 AM	#40
tblaxland Webmaster	Quote: Originally Posted by SiberianTiger The final, 500 days long session is to begin in March, 2009. 2010? Quote: Originally Posted by SiberianTiger Application taking from volunteers is still open! You know, if I was still single I might do it. I think I would miss the broadband internet though...

11-27-2009, 09:38 AM	#41
SiberianTiger News Sifter	Quote: Originally Posted by tblaxland 2010? Yes, 2010, certainly. My typo.

12-02-2009, 08:17 AM	#42
ijuin Orbinaut	Quote: Originally Posted by Sky Captain I have some thoughts As I understand 500+ day mars mission time comes from assumption that chemical propulsion is going to be used. However realistically Mars mission are not going to happen before year 2025. - 2030. By that time there should be much better propulsion systems built and already tested in space. For example VASIMIR powered spacecraft could make Earth - Mars trip in 2 - 3 months. That would allow total mission time to be less than a year assuming no more than 6 month time spent on Mars surface. Also a lot more useful equipment could be carried with VASIMIR than with chemical rocket. Not to mention much less time spent in zero G and less exposure time to cosmic radiation reducing problems with crew health. We could build a VASIMR propelled spacecraft by 2020 if it weren't for the political blocks against launching nuclear reactors into space.

12-24-2009, 01:00 AM	#43
Suzy Orbinaut	There was a post at the Mars-500 blog (in Russian) that a Chinese volunteer might be included in Mars-500. From 15 to 18 December 2009 a meeting was held between IBMP specialists and Chinese Cosmonauts Training Center (KTSPK). The meeting was devoted to discussing issues related to the possible participation of Chinese experts in the project "Mars-500". As a result of the meeting was agreed on the possibility of inclusion in the scientific program of the 520-day isolation in the framework of the project "Mars-500" three scientific methods. In addition, discussed the possibility of inclusion in the crew of a Chinese volunteer.

02-26-2010, 11:09 AM	#45
Enjo Black hole orbiter	Quote: Originally Posted by C3PO You guys should try a trip on a fishing boat. AHAHAHAH Bang on, mate! I know what you are saying. Last time I had a trip on sailing boats with some people whom I didn't know earlier, they all seemed kind and all that, but after we all started drinking and not getting enough sleep, some people started to hate each other, some "equal popularity groups" were formed and I was happy that it ended sooner than 105 days :D Never ever! However you could tell who's going to like whom in just the first day, hence it's not that hard to eliminate total emotional fools in a first selection.