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Old 10-28-2013, 08:33 PM   #391
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 Huge spy satellite platforms are Buran models now? Really? I mean it was built as a Mir module. It was shaped like a fuel tank. That's not really a Buran mockup.
Well, since it failed in its main role, it served as a Buran mockup at least - I mean as a mockup of Some Big Thing.
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Article Energia revival for good ?

Russia starts ambitious super-heavy space rocket project

On the 25th anniversary of the historic flight of the Soviet space shuttle Buran, Russia's Roscosmos space agency has formed a working group to prepare "within weeks" a roadmap for the revival of the Energia super-heavy booster rocket.

The group led by Oleg Ostapenko, the new head of Roscosmos Federal Space Agency, is set to draw up proposals on the design of a super-heavy launch vehicle capable of delivering up to 100 tonnes of payload to the baseline orbit, former Soviet minister of general machine building, Oleg Baklanov, said on Friday.

"You have assumed the responsibility and dared to head the group, which is supposed to find an answer to the question how we can regain the position we demonstrated to the world with the launch of a 100-tonne spacecraft [Buran in 1988] within a few weeks," the ex-minister told Ostapenko at the event dedicated to the 25th anniversary of the flight of the Buran shuttle spacecraft.

The new carrier rocket Angara is set to become the base for the ambitious project that could bring Russia back to its heyday of space exploration. It could be launched from the Vostochny Cosmodrome which is now being constructed in Russia's Far East, and will replace Kazakhstan's Baikonur as Russia's main launchpad.

The 1988 launch of the Energia super-heavy rocket carrying the Buran space shuttle proved the rocket was capable of delivering 100 tonnes into orbit. That was five times more than the Proton-M rocket with a 20-tonne payload, thus making it the most powerful Soviet/Russian booster rocket ever developed.

As the International Space Station is scheduled to be taken out of service around 2020, ex-minister Baklanov explained that such a powerful rocket would allow the construction of a new orbital station "larger in its weight and dimensions." Also, a booster similar to the Soviet Energia would be indispensable for "exploring outer space in a wise manner, working in shifts on Mars, the Moon and so on," he added.

At the same media conference, president of the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation Vitaly Lopota announced that Russia will soon need super-heavy rockets to create a shield against possible future space weapons - which means deploying into orbit massive communications satellites and electronic warfare platforms.

'Nothing better has been created'
On the 25th anniversary of the Buran flight, Ostapenko acknowledged that the Soviet Union's achievements in space exploration remain an example for today's research.

"Human ingenuity created the Energia-Buran system 25 years ago," Ostapenko told the audience. "I am confident that events comparable by their scale are in store for us," he said.

In his speech, ex-minister Baklanov claimed that "nothing new has been designed" in the 25 years which have passed since the creation of the Energia-Buran system. He warned that "a point of no return is very close," and said there are only years left to recuperate the space industry to the previous level and keep the groundwork.

"We have a colossal amount of work to do," Ostapenko said, pointing out that only the experience of previous generations of scientists could ensure success.

"Our country has got huge potential; all we need to do is let the experienced professionals do their job the best way to ensure their self-actualization. I know we can do it. We've got strong support from the government, we've got thorough understanding of the tasks lying ahead," Ostapenko said.

Comparable to the US Space Shuttle, Buran completed only one unmanned spaceflight in 1988, as the Buran program was scrapped in 1993 following the collapse of the Soviet Union and lack of funding.

Soviet shuttle ahead of its time :
The Soviet Union's Energia/Buran exceeded the American space shuttle program by practically all capabilities, according to a report prepared by experts of the All-Russian Research Institute of Aviation Materials. The analysis is dedicated to the 25th anniversary of Buran's only performed launch into space.

Buran could stay in orbit for 30 days, while the American shuttle had a 15-day time limit. It could deliver into orbit 30 tonnes of cargo, compared to the US shuttle's 24 tonnes of cargo. It could carry a crew of 10 cosmonauts, while the American shuttle could carry seven astronauts. Preparation for the Energia/Buran launch at Baikonur Cosmodrome only took 15 days. However, it took one month of preparations before the US shuttle was launched from Cape Canaveral.

The Energia rocket booster could be used to launch various payloads into orbit, whereas the American shuttle's booster was one-task. A year and a half before the Buran launch, Energia was launched with a full-scale mock-up of the Skif-DM orbital combat laser platform weighing 77 tonnes, measuring 37 meters long, and over four meters in diameter. Though the mock-up failed to reach the desired orbit and fell into the Pacific, the Energia booster did its job fine, delivering the huge space platform into intermediate orbit, 110 kilometers above the earth's surface.

But the most important difference from the American model was that the Soviet spaceship could perform the flight and landing in totally automatic mode, which it brilliantly demonstrated on November 15, 1988.

Buran's American counterpart used to land with switched-off engines, meaning it could make only one landing attempt. The Soviet spacecraft could take several tries if needed.

When Buran approached Baikonur Cosmodrome and started landing in 1988, its sensors registered too strong side winds and the robotic system sent the huge machine for another rectangular traffic pattern approach, successfully landing the spacecraft on a second try.

The Buran shuttle was designed to perform 100 flights to space, while its engines were ready to do 66 flights without replacement. During its flight, it lost just eight of its unique thermal-insulation tiles out of 38,800.

The Energia/Buran program, which cost 16.5 billion Soviet rubles, lasted 18 years and united over 1,200 industrial sites throughout the Soviet Union.

Thirty-nine principally new materials and around 230 absolutely new technologies were developed during Buran's creation. Most of them are actively used in Russia's aeronautical and space industries today.

Source: Voice of Russia http://voiceofrussia.com/
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:28 PM   #393
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #394
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Beware, Roscosmos is discovering PRs !



Still, I was hoping some Energia-inspired heavy lifter or even Angara, "preparing the future" with the R-7 only is a bit short

BTW, I love the music and the "old school" jet training with full analog panel

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And that's not over ! Fear SAR-401 ! That tough guy is probably going to confront Robonaut at the ISS ! I want to see a robotical-wrestling-match in 0g, that would be fun !!

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A prototype robot called SAR-401 demonstrated its skills at drilling, using pincers and clasping a carabiner during testing in Star City, home of Russia’s cosmonaut training center. Watch this RIA Novosti video to see what else the robot is capable of.
http://en.ria.ru/video/20131128/1851...-in-Space.html


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 (epic fail at removing the "url" tags so no embedded display ?)
An URL from "youtu.be" isn't a valid automatically embeddable video. You need a "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDtAX6iIqwE" URL, or otherwise [youtube=Роскосмос]YDtAX6iIqwE[youtube] bbcode.
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Thanks, I tried but that doesn't seems to change anything, the [url] tag comes back again and again... Feel free to edit the post if you can fix that...

Edit : well done, I don't see what I missed

Edit2 : OK, I think it is because the title is in cyrillic, I got messy symbols in the link, exactly оскосмо, which sounds like a computer insult.

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 Edit : well done, I don't see what I missed
That's because the parser doesn't like the secure protocol links, either (https).

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 Edit2 : OK, I think it is because the title is in cyrillic, I got messy symbols in the link, exactly оскосмо, which sounds like a computer insult.
And that's because the title isn't treated by the parser as UTF-8 encoded text, but as ISO 8859-1. It's fixable by copying the title from the YouTube page and pasting it in place of the messy symbols in the post.
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Article Kazakhstan to end Proton missions in 2025

Kazakhstan to end Proton missions in 2025 : Kazakhstan would gradually reduce Proton carrier rocket launches from Baikonur space port and end them in 2025, an official with the national space agency (Kazcosmos) said Wednesday.

Kazcosmos Deputy Chairman Meirbek Moldabekov said Kazakhstan had signed an agreement with Russia on the reduction.

The Proton family of rockets was developed in the 1960s and first launched in 1965.

The current model, the Proton-M heavy launch vehicle, was designed to deliver satellites and automatic spacecraft to a near-Earth orbit and outer space. It uses toxic heptyl and nitric oxide and is therefore criticized by environmentalists.

The Proton series would eventually be replaced by a new launch vehicle known as the Zenit LV, which was under an upgrade program which would last until 2018, the official said.

But this did not mean the end of Proton launches in 2018, as the Zenit needed to "learn to fly," he said.

According to Moldabekov, Proton is Baikonur space port's "workhorse," and the port will be useless if Proton operations shut down.

Baikonur is the world's first and largest operational space facility. It launched the first manned spacecraft and the first satellites in history.

It now undertakes all of Russia's manned space missions, and is leased to Moscow by the Kazakh government until 2050 for an annual fee of 115 million U.S. dollars.

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An upgraded Zenit to replace Proton... didn't know that they work on improving it, I thought Angara is now the Zenit replacement project, since it uses a lot of its hardware.
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I think that the plan is to replace Proton by Zenit at Baikonur (because the Kazakhs are getting fed up will all those chemical spilled on their plains), then use Angara from Plestesk and the yet to be finished "Vostonchy" (sorry, still have trouble with that one) spaceport. The first Angara launch should occur next summer from Plestesk.

Of course I'm a bit sceptical on what will really be done, but that sure would make no sense to build new Angara launchpads at Baikonur, which is supposed to be closed by 2050.

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Vostochny spaceport : "There can be no failures to meet the time constraints"

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said the construction of the Vostochny spaceport will start running according to schedule by yearend.

The issue was raised by First Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Industry under the State Duma lower house of Russia's parliament Vladimir Gutenev. He drew the attention to the underfunding of the federal space program in the period from 2006 through 2015, which reached 12.5 billion rubles [1].

"Recalculation of the cost of the Vostochny spaceport found that the facility needed an extra 11.1 billion rubles [2]. "Isn't this underfunding threatening the Vostochny construction deadline and implementation of the presidential decree?" Gutenev asked Rogozin at the Government Hour question and answer session.

"We did have problems," Rogozin acknowledged. "We began to fail the deadlines for the construction of the key facilities, such as the launch pad for the Soyuz-2 booster, in August. These works should be completed by the end of 2014, in order to be able to carry out the first launch by 2015. We're now ten days behind schedule, and this lag will be fully eliminated by the New Year; we're monitoring it."

"Vostochny's funding is envisioned in the draft federal budget for 2014. We'll announce these figures at the State Duma next year. Together with Roskosmos, we decided to only allocate the funds necessary for design documents to build the first and second phase," the deputy prime minister went on. "The second phase is the construction of the launch pad for the Angara heavy booster, to be used in a manned flight in 2018."

Rogozin told lawmakers that the leadership of the Roskosmos aerospace company had been fired for failing the Vostochny spaceport construction deadlines.

"The Vostochny spaceport for us is the only guaranteed opportunity for unhindered access to outer space and solution of all civil and defense tasks. There can be no failures to meet the time constraints here," he said.

MOSCOW, December 11. /ITAR-TASS

[1] 381,425,000 USD
[2] 338,705,400 USD

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 "We're now ten days behind schedule, and this lag will be fully eliminated by the New Year; we're monitoring it."
I'm a bit sceptical about ten days behind schedule. If it were just ten days they wouldn't even mention it. Multiply it by any number you wish and you'll be closer to the truth.
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Same reaction, 10 days seem a bit ridiculous, 1000 days would be a more credible order of magnitude...

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Those are better news, way to go :

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Russia to send woman to space in 2014: Russia will send a female cosmonaut into space for the first time in two decades next year, an official at the space training centre said Wednesday. Yelena Serova, 36 and a professional cosmonaut, "is getting ready for a space flight in the second half of 2014," said Alexei Temerov, an official at Russia's Star City space training centre.


Cosmonaut Yelena Serova

Russia will this year celebrate the 50th anniversary of the first woman's trip to space. The feat was accomplished by Valentina Tereshkova on June 16, 1963, and was followed by that of another Soviet cosmonaut, Svetlana Savitskaya, who became the first woman to do a space walk.

But while NASA regularly sends female astronauts to work at the International Space Station (ISS), there has been only one Russian woman to fly to space since the early 1980s, Yelena Kondakova.

Kondakova spent five months in space on the since-retired Mir station in 1994-1995. She also travelled aboard the US Space Shuttle in 1997.

Yelena Serova will spend six months at the ISS, Temerov said.

"Her work programme at the ISS will not be anything extraordinary. It will be the usual research programme. A space walk is not planned," he added.

A second woman currently in training, 28-year-old Anna Kikina, has joined the cosmonaut program after becoming one of eight people selected in last year's recruitment drive.

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Another interesting article about that "Zenit affair" :

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Russia does not want to buy Ukrainian missiles. Roskosmos refused to purchase the Ukrainian missile "Zenit", which until recently was considered to be the best carrier in the world, “Izvestia” reports.

According to the source of the newspaper, a long-established price was offered for the rocket built into the budget in advance - about 1.2 billion rubles for the rocket. However, the Ukrainian partners did not accept the proposal, they asked for more - about 1.4 billion rubles. Under such conditions, the transaction loses its meaning, because for 1.5 billion rubles Roscosmos may order the production of "Proton " – a carrier of greater capacity, RBC reports.

"Over the past five years, the price of "Zenit" has trebled. Of course, this is not normal."Yuzhmash" explains this by changing prices of cooperation partners, saying that "Zenit" has up to 70% of the components from Russia – from metal to the RD- 171 engine”, the deputy director of "Space International Services” (which launches "Zenit" from Baikonur), Michael Gerasyov, said.

"This year we were not able to negotiate with the Russian Space Agency on the prices of missiles, because of the rise in the price of Russian components. This is an uncontrolled process, and here we cannot do anything. Believe me, our wages do not change. They are quite small by Russian standards - $400 on average in the enterprise. Our work in recent years has not been going up in price, and the appreciation is due to the supplies from Russia, where we buy 70% of the components and materials", the deputy director of "Yuzhmash", Sergei Voit said.

"Yuzhmash" was founded in 1944 in Dnepropetrovsk. In addition to space launch vehicles, it also produced missiles for the railway complex of the SRF.
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Interesting, current official prices on Protons...

In US-Dollars it would mean:
$36.5 million: Russia's preferred price for the Zenit.
$42.6 million: Ukraine's price for a Zenit.
$45.6 million: Proton

No comparisons to other cheap launch service providers of the US due to flamewar possibility please. Other threads.
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 Interesting, current official prices on Protons...

In US-Dollars it would mean:
$36.5 million: Russia's preferred price for the Zenit.
$42.6 million: Ukraine's price for a Zenit.
$45.6 million: Proton

No comparisons to other cheap launch service providers of the US due to flamewar possibility please. Other threads.
Thats still much cheaper than...... .....
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Article NASA extends contract on using Russian Soyuz spacecraft to deliver astronauts to ISS

The Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos) and NASA have reached preliminary agreements on delivering foreign astronauts to the International Space Station (ISS) on board Russian Soyuz spacecraft after 2016, chief of Roscosmos's manned spaceflight programs Alexei Krasnov told Interfax-AVN.

"The existing contract envisions the use of Russian Soyuzes for delivering astronauts to the ISS in the period up to 2017, but a Roscosmos delegation reached an agreement with NASA on extending the agreement to the end of 2017. Foreign astronauts will fly along with Russian cosmonauts on board our Soyuzes in 2017 and slightly longer," Krasnov said.

NASA expects that commercial manned spacecraft will carry out one or two test flights to the ISS at the end of 2017, Krasnov said. However, before the completion of the entire set of safety tests, these spacecraft would not be used to send people into space, and NASA will use Russian Soyuzes for this purpose, he said.

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